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EisenFaust

by EisenFaust on 13 August 2008 - 01:08

My question is just for entertainment purposes. Who is worth more a sch3 3yr old male with a super pedigree or a true fully trained PPD 3 yr old GSD with a super pedigree. PPD is trained for complete handler protection, ob, home protection, vehicle extraction and so on. Just looking for points of view. Thanks


MI_GSD

by MI_GSD on 13 August 2008 - 01:08

For the breeders and competitors, I would say the Sch.3 boy.   A well trained PPD dog probably has more training into them but aren't as desirable to breeders as a Sch. dog. 

On the flipside, the folks with the money who just want a protection dog, are going to pay big for a PPD.  Sadly, many of these dogs aren't well trained. 


animules

by animules on 13 August 2008 - 01:08

Totally depends on what your goal is.   If you're planning on breeding him, who is your target clients?


EisenFaust

by EisenFaust on 13 August 2008 - 01:08

What if your target client are those who want a true working dog.


animules

by animules on 13 August 2008 - 01:08

PPD, if your clients (and you) know what they are truely looking at. 


EisenFaust

by EisenFaust on 13 August 2008 - 02:08

Ok cool, now lets say you are looking for a puppy for sport but that has the ability to go real. Do you go based on pedigree and titles or pedigree and individual ability?


neohaus

by neohaus on 13 August 2008 - 03:08

It will all be the buyer who decides what is worth more.  I agree that most PPD are not what they are said to be...and all sport dogs are not just sport dogs.

I think a green dog with an impeccable temperament and pedigree is worth the most IMO.


SchHBabe

by SchHBabe on 13 August 2008 - 03:08

Value is in the eyes of the buyer. If someone's goal is high level sport work, I would expect them to be more inclined to shell out a wad of cash for the sport dog. I wouldn't be surprised if the PPD sold for more money, but that has little to do with the quality of the dog. Haven't we heard the stories of rich but clueless folks who buy a PPD just to feel safe and secure? The dog may or may not have the training or capabilities as advertised, but since the dog may never be actually put to the test, it could be a s*** dog and who would be the wiser? Pedigree would be valuable to those who want to breed and/or want particular bloodlines, but the quality of the dog may or may not live up to its "paper value". Yvette

by alaman on 13 August 2008 - 03:08

PPD because I have one and would not sell him at any price. I have an excellent SCH3 female and would at the right price. Different dogs for different purposes. One is for security and the other for fun.


jletcher18

by jletcher18 on 13 August 2008 - 03:08

1st question you asked,,,,, i want to see the dog work in person.  if this is not possible i want to see video. 

to judge a dog solely on its titles (or what it is said it can do) is just as silly as saying i have a top competition dog for sale and he is 8 weeks old.  they both are bunk.  selling points to get money out of uneducated buyers.

 

2nd question.  pedigree can only give you an idea of what the parents have produced in the past.  you will only get a real idea if the parents have been breed before , and there are proven offspring available to see.

when you buy a puppy it is a gamble.  drop your money on the table,  shake the dice real good and yell "seven come eleven"

pedigree will (once again) only take you so far.  look at the parents.  dont be fooled by handlers telling you how good their dog is.   it is hard for new people to understand what it is they should be looking for.  hope you can find an educated person to help them decide.

in the end i would have to say go on individual ability.  granted, if it is a puppy, remember, its still a puppy.

your client wants a true working dog.   what is a true working dog?  in whose eyes?  what is their idea of a true working dog?

too many varibles play a role for a generalized question.

john






 


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