Helser BOI Update-SchH USA - Page 1

My friend got her overnight package returned to her with a letter.

 "Most importantly,  Helser hasnt been a member since December, 2007 so the BOI  cannot bring charges' 

'BOI can only address charges regarding current USA members or Member clubs."

 

Translation: We Cop out & Sell Out....we cannot  and will not take action, reactive or pro active.

(Wonder why they dont issue a Cease And Desist Order?) 

(USA also stated they didnt get checks for the USA dues or BOI dues BUT  Carbon Copies of these checks are available & were kept.   $30 was spent on overnight fees...& more spent now,  to stop payments on 2 checks.) 

Her dues expire at the end of the month, they will not be renewed. IPO & PSA look better every day.

Helser isnt The problem, USA politics is THE problem. The two were made for each other, it would appear.

We tried.  Over 6 people actually & 70+ pages.. Can you say 'song & dance' boys & girls?  

 

Sometimes, I wonder what color the sky is on your world!

You have no one to "blame", other than yourself!

       First of all, typically, you do not accurately quote the letter.  Your  post is a misrepresentation.   Why don't you post the ENTIRE LETTER,  to avoid such inaccuracies ( intentional or otherwise)?  Of course, that is a rhetorical question, because you lack the integrity to post the entire letter, just as you lacked the integrity to post the entire email correspondence with you on a related thread. 

    Second, as was stated before, as any sensible person would realize, one cannot file internal organizational charges when  (1) one is NOT a current member one's self and (2) against an individual who is NOT a member and has not been for nearly a year.    (3) Per the bylaws, a charge must be accompanied by a $75 fee.   When the fee is missing, do you really expect an organizaion, court or any other entity to entertain the charge?  NO.  Period. 

 

     The "cop out" is individuals who sit on the sidelines whining and waiting for "someone else" to take care of their problems.  Guess what?  USA cannot cure anyone's poor judgement, or  hesitance is addressing issues.  YOU and others were ranting on this board about Helser for years, and never filed BOI charges, even when he was charged last spring with multiple counts of animal cruelty and harboring a dangerous dog, --issues that , on their face, would appear to be matters that could well be prejudicial or detrimental to the interests of USA.  Instead, again, all "concerned" waited and hoped that "someone else" would "take care of it."  No one did.  Now, no one can via USA's procedure.  In fact, as I stated elsewhere on this forum, Helser has not been a member since December 1, 2007.  

 

  OBVIOUSLY, there is nothing USA can do about a non-member.  If it could, someone might be filing charges against you,  and the first thing you would be howling about is the OBVIOUS fact that USA cannot discipline anyone who is not a member.   That is not a "cop out," Bill, that is common sense.  At least, it is on planet Earth where the sky is blue (sometimes gray).   What color is the sky in UglyWorld?

 

  

Helser is Not a Member as of today, but still represents himself as a Member, with a USA form & Bylaws for his club, its still on his  Club Website as of today.

How about a 'CEASE & DESIST ORDER"?

The BOI  inquiry was initiated by a Member, her membership does not expire until the end of the month. You claim you are missing a check..yet over $30 was spent in Overnight fees.  I dont have the letter, or I'd post it Einstein. Its not addressed to me, Im not "cc" on it.

Your organization is 3rd rate & a Dumping ground for Criminals & Cons.  As evidenced by the Helser Types that come & go at will.  I guess Not paying Member dues,  is one way to avoid any club action?  Your probably soliciting Helser now to PAY his Dues & bring them Current!

You Cant do anything about a Non Member.   How about Policing Criminals in your ranks?  Multiple  Criminal Counts?  Dozens in fact. Habitual. ReOccuring?  5 page Rap sheet, Youve seen it.

Too sensible, huh? You make it very clear what the PRIORITIES of USA are.

 

 

 I stand by my statement, Bill.  An individual NOT current on dues attempted to file against an individual who is NOT a member.  And, there was NO CHECK included, as required by the bylaws.   It is irrelevant how much was paid for postage, or that a duplicate/copy of the  check exists.  That does not change the facts.    I deal with FACTS, Bill, not rantings.

 

Bill, I know of your own admission  on this forum that YOU have a conviction, not "criminal charges" ( that ended up dismissed), but a conviction.  You have also displayed a quite disreputable character on this forum.  Further, you have exhibited a rabid form of  racism.   So, I guess from your rantings, that would mean that USA (and any other respectable organization) should exclude you from its ranks, too?    But, guess, what?  USA has no mechanism to keep even you from our ranks.  Sad, huh?   But, I agree:  we should fix that, and be much more selective about our membership.  Otherwise, we could end up with mroe convicted criminals as members. 

 

From the Uglydog thread:

This is a corollary to the "Holy Shit" thread.   After all the ranting and raving on that thread about USA's "failure" to address the Helser issue, and Ugly frankly showing his true self in the process... 

 

Unbelievable!  NONE of these people are current members of USA... including Helser!!   Tim Helser has not been a member of USA since December 1, 2007!!  Ugly was never a member, and apparently didn't notice he never received a membership card or magazine, and he apparently doesn't know anyone who is a current member, either.   All this sturm und drang for NO REASON, other than apparently showing his Ugly heinie.   

 

   I am now TRULY DONE with you, Bill Wanke aka Ugly...and your little dog, too!!  Don't bother responding, because I will ignore ANYTHING from you and your ilk.  Oh, and by all means, PLEASE have your attorney contact me, as you threatened.  Or, just post his/her name and phone # here (as I said in my emails to you , DO NOT CONTACT ME any further).  But,  I really want to speak with your lawyer.  

 

 

I am now done with any further discussion with you,  Ugly.  It is pointless and futile.  The facts are clear and have been accurately set out for all to see.   If you have issues with USA's membership procedures it is very simple:  DON'T JOIN USA.  OR RATHER, CONTINUE NOT TO BE A MEMBER!  Period.  Nothing need even be said.  Just move on and have fun in PSA or whatever other sport or organization meets with your standards, and will have you.  I would suggest WDA, but they do have a screening process (applicant members' names are published for comment from the membership before being accepted) and your rantings on this forum are so notorious ... 

Whore= A prostitute..   A person considered as having Compromised Principles for personal gain. This applies to Organizations as well.

The fact that you spent money to overnight your documentation to USA in no way affects the fee that is required to file the charges. Why would you even think so? Helser is not a member and you have been told this ad nauseum. Why not take your complaints to AKC and the GSDCA? If he is found to be in violation of anything there, AKC could suspend his registration rights. (No access to litter registrations or stud fees, trials or shows) I don't know what USA can do about representations on a website other than verify membership status for those who bother to check before committing time and dogs to the individual. Sadly, even if the person is a member, that is still no indicator of quality or compatible intrests, any more than AKC papers are a statement of quality. USA does not police members, training or breeding. It sets up rules that the ethical will follow and guidelines that the dedicated will accept as rules but if an individual wants to work outside of the system they are free to do so. Your allegations of still more criminals in USA are sounding hysterical. Identify those people and take the proper steps. To a mild extent, I agree with you there, this is a family activity for many and we need to know that it is safe to let minors attend training and events without fear of predation. The system will only work if those with proof step forward and follow the outlined proceedures. The BOI will not act on insinuation or gossip, documented member filed charges are what will get action and if you are not willing to follow the steps don't be upset when USA won't dance.

Good advice, better than I've received here from many.

Not 'hysterical', but factual.    There were known Criminals that held positions on USA. They began to screen thereafter for Felons, Only.   Helser is but a drop in a sea..many more cons just like him.   Thats what Ive tried, with others, to change.

84 criminal Counts, is not 'gossip' or 'insinuation'.  Type his name on the County Database. Go to Criminal & type Tim Helser.  It appears that Helser & USA are made for each other.

www.mcohio.org//government/clerkofcourts/search_public_record.html

 

 

Why does USA let him advertise using their name and holding meetings and training saying he is a member and is using their name to get people to meetings.

THey cannot do anything about a  FORMER member using their motiff and using their name .?????

He has been doing this for years before he quit paying his dues..So you let him just use the name and make believe he doesnt exist , , after you have been advised hes doing it...

I thought USA  would write him a nice , responsible letter and tell him to disconnect himself from Their name and quit advertising his wares with the USASchutzhund name and acting as if he is a member, and /or using their organizations name for his monetary gain.

They dont want to cant be bothered?  I remember them being told several years ago about this man.

 

YR,

 

USA is a volunteer organization and a dog club, not Pillsbury or Microsoft who will go after anyone anytime, and has the rsources to litigate you into the ground.    Do you have any idea how many breeders continue to advertise their USA membership and/or that their kennels are 'USA registered" long after their membership has expired--and they are removed from the USA website?.  Or worse, when they never were members?   USA cannot realisitically be expected to run down every faker and demand that they cease and desist, repeatedly ,ad nauseum.  I say repeatedly ad nauseum, because do you realistically expect a dog club to litigate each and every one of the literally dozens of such issues each year?    No, it simply is not realisitc, feasible or practicable for USA to do so.  What is realistic, feasible and practicable is for people to go the the  USA website to check on an individual or breeder's bona vides.  If they advertise that their kennel is "USA-Registered" and you find that it is NOT listed on the USA website, that should be sufficient to put anyone of reasonable intelligence on notice that  "Joe Blow lied about that, he may be lying about anything and everything else, too."   People do have to accept responsiblity and accountability for themselves, rather than expect that someone else is going to "watch-dog"  and spoon-feed everything for them.  

  I do feel, though, that the USA membership list should not be such a "State Secret" that members  can't verify who is and who is not a current member by just gong to the website and logging into a "Members Only" section where that information can be found.  Would I like to see all criminals barred from USA?  Yes, certainly.   For most of reasonable minds, the fact that felons are prohibited from holding higher office is the organization, including judges (!!!)  can be seen as a start.  Even that took YEARS to get done.  Yes, it is a no brainer for some of us; for others...who knows?   Self-interest?  Probably, as I know that there have been convicted felons in the room when the proposal was made, repeatedly, at the annual meeting.  You can't really expect them to support the idea and they didn't.

      

 

Mystere;

While I do understand the point you make, in stating it is not practical or realistic to prosecute every former member still using the club name. It might however be a worthwhile exercise to "make an example" of a couple of the worst offenders. It might also be an idea for the club to be a little more proactive in its discouragement of others. For example, have you considered a hall of shame? By this I mean a page on your site that lists these offenders.

You might even find that membership renewal increases suddenly.

 Just a thought.