What is Going On!!! - Page 1

Alright everyone,

A friend of mine is trying to breed his female. Yes she is titled imported from Germany and has had a previous litter. Well his female was on Day 11 when the stud dog came to the house. The stud dog owner is allowing my friend to keep the stud dog until the job is done.

The first couple of days the stud was there day 11-13 he was trying with all his might to breed. The female was standing arching her back flagging the whole nine yards still no magic. Well today is day 15 and for the past couple of days the bitch has been hiding in the kennel so the male wouldn't get to her. So all day long he barks and barks and begs her to come out but she doesn't seem to have any interest whatsoever in breeding right now. Now her vulva is still somewhat enlarged but not as large as it was two and three days ago.

There is still some bloody discharge but its hard to tell because she keeps very clean. Can anyone explain to me what is going on so I can relay it to my friend.

Also when her owner is around the bitch was reluctant to stand for the stud. We would try to hold her but every time the bitch's owner would move the bitch would move.

Thanks

It sounds like you weren't firm enough with the bitch when she was ready and now she's out.  I've got a bitch here who is so high drive that she flags and runs circles around my male unless you pretty much hogtie her.  She wants to but she has a major case of wiggle butt.  I've also sent bitch owners home because their dog is so much better when they aren't around. 

If in doubt, take her in and have her progesterone tested.

Only 3 choices - 1. Do an AI  2. round up some big strong guys, truss her up, muzzle her and force breed her  assuming he's willing to try to tie her under those circumstances, some males will, some won't. 3. forget about breeding her this time and wait til next season and start over.  Some bitches get all wonky when they are in season and some never stand voluntarily every season.  It's nature's birth control.

Wow!! That's kind of what I thought. It was strange though because on her last heat she didn't breed until day 17 and 19 and this time she was flagging day 10-13. And she did have to be held but not by the owner by the stud dog owner the owner opted to go home.

I always figured natures way was without human intervention and that something like breeding could be done without our assistance in holding the bitch. Well I guess you live and you learn

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I always figured natures way was without human intervention and that something like breeding could be done without our assistance in holding the bitch. Well I guess you live and you learn

Sure, if you allow the male and female full access to each other as she enters heat and progresses through her cycle....

But if you control the interactions between male and female dog, you're going to have other factors playing a role and perhaps outweighing the mating drives. Not that I'm advocating free access--it's not feasible or desirable most of the time.

Christine

www.blackthornkennel.com

2. round up some big strong guys, truss her up, muzzle her and force breed her  assuming he's willing to try to tie her under those circumstances, some males will, some won't.

Blitzen,
I find your post rather offensive, disgusting and very immoral breeding practice.  If the bitch doesn't want to get bred for obvious reasons... why on earth would you gather up a bunch of strong guys to physically restrain the bitch by holding her and putting a muzzle on her and then have the stud dog maliciously rape the bitch into breeding?

When people like you who suggest this kind of breeding garbage to someone who's having problems with breeding their bitch wonders why such organization like Peta hates breeders...

Breeders who do this should face karma and should also be forcefully raped themselves to see how it feels to get raped.

Brittany, Blitzen has forgotten more about dogs than most of us will ever learn about them.  Don't mess with her.

What do you think happens to the females when they go for a breeding to a top stud male?  One they do not know? 

What do you think happens when a mare goes to a top Stallion.  Do you think for a moment they will risk that the mare kick the stallion and break his leg? 

These are planned breedings where time is of the essence and hopefully for a given goal in mind. 

Brittany, it's dog breeding, not a debutante at a party.  Some bitches just can't bear to stand still.  They are just fine after they breed the first time with restraint, and often breed willingly the second time.  You don't need any big strong guys, that just Blitzen's dramatic joke.  I've restrained  a wiggly whiney maiden bitch myself, when I had a broken ankle, sitting in a chair because I could not bear to stand.   I didn't have to restrain her the second time, she caught on to the idea and decided she liked it after all. 

Sounds like the bitch has been missed, but sometimes they just get tired of being mauled on by an eager male. 

Veronica

BRITTANY, you are right, and to so desperately want a breeding to happen when the bitch is OBVIOUSLY done, is when I see that it's more important to the dog owner to do a breeding then it's necessary. Are you ssssssssssso in need of a litter??? Give up already ,she's done. You act as if it's the end of the world , is'nt it obvious ?

Tell your "friend" next time  do it right , I have read other post from you and it seems to me that your breeding or "friends" breeding never goes right , maybe you should re-evaluate your whole breeding adventures...

Angelique

I have had to hold more than my fair share of females.  some have been so dominate that they would never allow a male to mount them.  other's would run in circles till the male wore himself out chasing them.  and still other bitches would bite and fight at the male once he is tied.  I don't care what You think Brittany, I will hold a female to be bred any day rather than have her rip and ear off of a male and break his genitals.  it is not offensive, or disgusting or very immoral breeding practices.  it is a very responsible thing to do. 

most of your breeders who have high dollar studs will not allow a breeding UNLESS someone is holding the bitch.

I have had my back tore up, fingers and knuckles broken, I have been bit, and countless bruises from hoding bitches to be bred. 

Jennifer

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Blitzen,
I find your post rather offensive, disgusting and very immoral breeding practice.
Breeders who do this should face karma and should also be forcefully raped themselves to see how it feels to get raped