My 13 month old was accidentally bred - I'm worried - Page 1

My 13 month old female first came into heat at 8 months. At 12 months, she came into heat again. I was a bit concerned about it, but figured I would wait and see how far along the next cycle was before worrying.

Well, it has been ONE month since her last heat cycle. I walked outside to feed this evening and her and my male were tied. I was completely shocked. I had of course not thought she was in season as her last cycle was a month ago. Also, the male had not been acting as if she were in season.

I have no clue how many times the male has bred her. I am worried 1.) that she is too young and 2.) that there is something wrong with her since she her cycles are so sporadic.

I spoke with my vet about aborting the pups, but he too worries that she has probably been bred over too many days at this point. He said the best time to abort is the very next day after the first breeding.

So, I guess I am looking for advise. 1.) Should I abort the pups and 2.) does anyone have another female that has had sporadic heat cycles like this? I find this very abormal.

Ramage,

My female is off by a month sometime's.   Cycle's vary.    Her cycle may have run longer than you figured.

Your dog is not too young to successfully have a litter but it's not the best way to go about a breeding.   (no bashing)

Its too late for the morning after pill I guess is what your vet is concerned about.   I would not consider aborting a litter for the bitch's sake.

Now your responsible for a litter of puppy's.   In time you will know when it's time to keep them apart and how long to keep them apart.

If you never want pup's ever, then the vet can do something about that.

Good luck,

Brent.

Well, I just read about what is called a split (or wolf) heat cycle.

The bitch comes into season once (which is infertile) and then comes into a second, fertile heat 2-6 weeks later. It has been about 4 weeks since her last heat, so I assume she is having a split cycle.

I was not expecting that. I have been looking forward to breeding these two, but had not planned to breed the female until her 3rd heat cycle. That would have placed her around 18-19 months.

I will probably not abort as my vet does not want to do it and I do not want to spay her. I suspect most of the pups will die anyhow as I am sure there will be complications as a result of this. I am just so upset right now.

Ramage,

There is no reason why the pup's should die,  you can kill them if you like just do it humanely after the mother has nursed out, or you will have to deal with drying up the mother's milk which is another stress on the mother. 

Still not bashing, but don't breed your dog's until two or later, with a good or better OFA, done at 24 month's, and check for other genetic health problem's, and maybe even Bruccilosis.   And make sure they have the attribute's you wish to pass on to a litter of pup's or simply are they worth breeding in the first place.

Have you considered what you will do with a litter?    Are you ready to have a litter?  

I'm trying Ramage, really trying.

Brent.

I'm sorry, you must be confused. I did not say I planned to kill the pups, but I worry that with the dam being young, not all of the pups will make it.

I have had litters in the past, but thanks for the concern.

I'm glad you are trying, because I am trying, too.

This was not a planned breeding. I thought I already said that, but I just want to repeat it. The bitch was FULLY out of season when I let her back into the kennel. She came back into a second season obviously within the past week or so. I doubt most people would have thought twice about the bitch coming back into season. That is rather abnormal in my experience.

I am upset about the breeding, but I will deal with it. I suppose the heat cycle is not a repro issue, just a split cycle (thanks to someone who sent me a link on that). I hope that most of the pups will be healthy and survive. They will then be evaluated and placed into homes.

You might be lucky and not get any puppies at all.  Some females will breed when they are not ovulating.  I have seen it happen before.  Yes, she is too young to be having a litter but take care fo feed her well and keep her in good shape and even if she has a litter she may do fine.  No reason to think that the puppies will die or that she won't be able to take care of them.

Believe me, you aren't the first person to have this happen.  Keep them apart now in case she isn't already pregnant.  Good luck!!

 I ahd a bitch that came into season 3 times a year.  It was a couple of years before we figured this out (she was VERY clean and often gave no physical clue) but eventually, I learned that every Febraury, May and October she went into season.  Each season affected her differently, too.  February, she was squirrelly as hell, embarassingly so.  I didn't even bother taking her to training for  February and March.  NO way could she be trialed.    May, she was was nearly normal, but still just a bit "off" in behavior.  I could trial her in April/May/June.    October, she was Godzilla in the work.  I was happy to trial her in the fall.

Ramage,

I have been in your shoe's with an accidental breeding, I understand that.     But you also mentioned breeding at 18-19 month's.   You know now your bitch has odd cycle's lesson learned.    These pup's should be fine, I figured you didn't want the pup's in the first place.

Breed the way you want, I'm not one of those who want to tell you your business, someone else will come along soon enough and add to this discussion.

Stop worrying about this breeding, but think about the next time, and what you should consider before breeding .

Brent.

I sold a female pup to someone and they let her get bred at 6 or 7 months old.  She had 10 pups and raised them just fine.  It didn't stunt her growth as she is a large big butted girl now at 4 years old.  She was a great mother to the litter. and all the pups did just fine.

I am not promoting breeding them this young, but your girl is more than old enough to handle this.  I wouldn't worry to much, like someone else said, she might not even take and have pups.  She may not have even ovulated.

Corieone - I would be so happy if that came true! With my luck, I am sure she is pregnant. No matter what, I will plan or a litter and if no pups come, I will be happy!!

Uber Land - that made me feel better. I just worry about this girl having an unhealthy litter. I am sure I am just being a worry wart, but she is so young looking and acting. I hope she does not take, but if she does I truly hope that pups are healthy and survive. As of tonight, I have split the dogs up and the female will stay in the house until when/if she has pups and they are weaned.

Mystere - that is very interesting that her attitude changed so much each season. Luckily, this girl is not like that. So far, she is very normal acting and gives no sign of attitude change when in season.

Two Moons - again, thank you for your concern.