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I have a friend that is looking into possibly purchasing this male.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/507424.html

Can you please tell me what the (a2) is in his hip rating so I can pass on the correct information? I know what HD a-fast normal is but the (a2) is puzzling me.

Thank You All...

Spernagsds,

The a2 notation is the "code" used by the SV to specify just that the hips were "Fast normal". Hope that helps. 

The SV uses these definitions in their database. Look on the inside of the pink papers. It is explained there as well.

a1 - a "normal"

a2 - a "fast normal"

a3 - a "noch zugelassen"

a4 -  mild HD

a5 - severe HD

a6 - a "Ausland" (this means that the xray was done in another country - other than Germany. It does not define which grade it is, just that the hips were certified outside of Germany).

Handsome male. I like 4-4 Ulk breeding!! I know nothing about this male personally, nor who his breeder is; this is just friendly forewarning suggestions to maybe help keep problems down...
What are the purposes for which this male is being bought? Is he for show/competition? For breeding? If he's being considered for breeding, since he's that age already (2+), I'd have your friend request a bruscellosis test to be done on him, and a sperm check-make SURE you see vet results yourself so that they're satisfactory(negative for the brusc test, and a healthy sperm count). If he's been here in the US, find out and ask to see documentation to make sure he's UTD on shots, worming, and has been on heartworm medication (heartworm isn't a factor in Germany). I'd also manually check to make sure he's intact with both testicles normal. How is he with other dogs? How does he behave with children? How does he work (has your friend seen at least a video if not watched him in person)? These are also important things to know before purchasing an adult to bring into a new situation. While your friend may have done their homework, we get plenty of people who come here and bash people because they simply didn't do their homework. An a2 hip rating isn't the best possible(a1 is best possible from a foreign country), but it's still good. Losely compairs to a good OFA-Fair (borderline OFA-Good) to an OFA-Good. He's got a decent hip background with some nice WGR show line quality dogs, so the hip situation appears to be decent. Good luck!

katjo, lol!

for your information: Overledinger Land is a very wellknown kennel in Germany. It is owned by Guenther Muller, the conformation judge (there is another judge by that name but he is a working judge). If you check the "history of change" on the pedigree data of the above mentioned male, you will find that Mr. Mueller himself entered data. The last entry was by a sports friend in Germany. And no, I don't know anything about this male, the sales transaction or such, but it is easy to draw conclusions by just checking. If Mr. Mueller put in these changes, I am assuming that the information is correct. Therefore, you can rest assured that the dog is in possession of his family jewels. They do check for these in breed surveys, you know! 

I bet if Mr. Mueller reads this he will have a good chuckle out of this. He is a nice man, I know him.

Although the OP did not ask for advice or opinions on the possible sale or the dog himself, I have to say that he is a nice looking dog. I love the fact that he is a Quenn-son. Quenn is one of the most promising dogs we have in Germany right now. I am looking forward to seeing him in Aachen in 6 weeks. If everything goes by plan, I will have a Quenn-litter as well next spring.

Edited to add: This dog has really nice siblings as well. He is not a "coincidence", as we would say in Germany. For that alone, he should be an asset to any breeding program. I would not hesitate to purchase him myself  if I was in the market for a male.

LOL-I've not heard of the guy personally, but like I said-no insultive harm meant concerning the dog himself or who he comes from. For every one dog talked about here being purchased that was truly 100% good, we've heard TONS here about 3 that weren't so great.  It pays to do your homework. Just because a male has both doesn't mean he's fertile. Neither does it mean his 'equipment' is large enough to do a breeding tie (doesn't sound possible, but I've seen this myself-very surprising). It pays to keep it all in mind and check-nothing wrong with friendly well-meant advice. Like I said before, nice-looking male with very nice breeding, and I wish the buyer the best with him! And you, too, Silbersee! :o)

Thanks, katjo! Same wishes to you!

Let's not start a discussion of how large the equipment has to be to produce. That could get very heated, lol. But there is an area in the breed survey report where it is checked off if the testicles appear normally developed. If they were not, I am sure it would prevent him from getting surveyed at all, let alone into Class 1.

Thank You all, for all the excellent information.  I am always learning new things.  This male is to replace a pup he was going to use as a foundation male.  His male turned two and Ofa"d very poorly.  They said his hips were very very poor.  So he is now searching for someone a lot more reputable to buy from.  He doesnt want to start with a pup this time either.  But anyways.  Thanks again...  I will pass this all on.

SILBERSEE: 

Not to take offense to anyone here, but we are all now gunshy. If you read the thread about the Engels breeding a male without or with his  Jewels and Zico coming over here from Germany with all advertisements stating he had a SchH 3 , even posted the postings on databases,,that he is such, Katjo74 is reminging all of us., check it out all the way. Someone else mentioned yesterday on a thread, how many times to we call or dont call out the well know breeders when the sell or misrepresent a dog , and no one every knows about it, because everyone assumes, because of their excellent reputation, just take everything they say regardless. Recent postings and occurances on papers and titles coming from Germany , just make us be more careful and check all out , and not take someones word without being careful.

No harm in being sure. Mistakes are made without harmful intent. So find out before and not after you  purchase. Im sure this dog will check out fine, but hopefully all is in order..That is just being a careful breeder in case, Spernagsd wants to resell or use her name to promote the dog..Like in SImportK9, dot all the i's and cross all your T's. Good luck on your trip.

Hear a bit of excitement in your post as you get ready for this trip.

ED also "fast normal":

http://www.schaeferhunden.eu/winsis_x/winsisshowdog.php?bb=&id=2189239&tp=3