breeding question - Page 1

We have a 2-1/2 year old ddr female german shepherd, we have noticed the past few days that our male shepherd has been really excited around her, running the yard smelling eveywhere she urinates and constantly smelling her, placing his head over her back and trying to mount, but i'm sure she is not ready.....because today is the first sign of her bleeding - so I assume see is just in the early stages of her cycle...my question is when do I know the time is right to let them breed?

What titles and what hip and elbow ratings does either dog have?  What are your goals for this breeding?  Too many people get a male and a female and then want to breed them, when they know nothing about breeding, and better yet, nothing about the breed.  Then we have more GSD's ending up in the shelters.

Marsha Seck

IF you have to ask such questions.YOU should NOT BREED AT ALL!!! 

IF you have to ask such questions.YOU should NOT BREED AT ALL!!! 

Rainhaus.......

silly me...i guess you were born knowing eveything......if you can not be of help - then just do not waste my time or yours replying.

I just do not get how some people can be such jacka$$es

I agree and disagree.  I definetly think that lots more research should be done before you breed your dogs.  But if you don't ask questions you'll never learn.  I would be curious to know how other people got to know so much about breeding.  Granted reading up and doing lots of research helps.  But lets face it, nothing tops being able to talk to or watch a more experienced person.  So before these other people jump down your throat they should have politely told you that obviously you're not ready for that, and that you need to find out more before you take on this enormously tiring and time consuming matter.  Talking to your vet and researching it on the internet, and reading lots of material on every aspect of this process would be very helpful to you.  But just because you read it in the book doesn't mean that's how it will happen.  There are many unknowns, that can only be handled by just plain old experience.  So take your time and hopefully you can find all the answers to your questions.

common,,,,,he just bought a dog and now he has to make his money back....what's wrong with that? Who cares what he does or does not know? And it takes too much time to read up on mating and breeding issues....LOL

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Na, I agree with Rainhaus.  If you are such a novice that the basics have you baffled and you have no mentor or vet for guidance, breeding is NOT what you should be doing.  We all learn the same way, in that we all start with zero knowledge and build...but this is not the place to get your *basic* information.  Start with finding someone well versed in the breed...someone local and build a raport.  If you have the right intentions you'll find someone who equals your own ethics.  There are quite a few good books one can read as well.

Come on now, seriously, if you aren't invested in this enough to do some independent research and learning, you are not demonstrating much dedication to this. 

Ultimate,

You did not answer my questions about titles and hip/elbow ratings on either dog.  I can see that the male has a BH, but that is not a title.  What do you know about what is considered a breedworthy GSD?

My first GSD, a male, I determined that he was not a breedworthy male, and had him neutered at 2 1/2 years old.  That was not our original hopes for him, but it was the right thing to do.  He is still in training and will get his title.  My second is a female, and after she is titled then I will breed her, but not before.  She will be going on 3 years old this fall, so I have put a lot of  time, effort and love into her, but I know her strengths and weaknesses and will take those into consideration when I choose the right male to breed her to.  My third, also a female, will be the same way.  Not bred until she is titled, which will be probably at least another year.  My fourth, is a young male.  He will follow the same program.  Titled before he is bred.   All my dogs are trained and will be titled by myself.  It's a long haul, but I know that I will have done right by each and every one of them, and I have also done right by the breed.

A few weeks ago,some lady drove in and wanted to know about breeding to my black male.  He's 9 months old for goodness sakes.  She had a black female and was looking to breed her.  Knew nothing, but wanted to breed.  Yesterday  got an email from some lady looking for a male to breed to her female.  Her dog was such a great dog and she wanted to keep the lines going......knows nothing about the breed itself, just wanted to breed so she could keep a puppy and sell the rest to make some money.

So perhaps you should take the time to learn much, much more about the breed itself before you jump into breeding.

If I were a Jack-ass.I would have potential.I could breed to a horse(F) and produce a mule.lol.   I wish more mules were around.

ah so      what wrong with this picture     american joe been trainer of dog for 29 years    still not know when to breed    chop chop everybody haulee ass away from ultimate k9protection   this smells more fishy than prestons stinky clothes or my last special on blowfish

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