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by ScrewedByBroker on 23 July 2008 - 10:07

What do buyers do after they buy a pricey pup at $1800.- $3500.00 from a "Breeder" and then this Breeder Disappears after just a couple years in the business? When the buyers now try to contact their breeder and the dog breeders website is now vacated and there is no way to contact said breeder about their "Guarantee" what do they do? When all the puppy buyers from the last 10 litters from this "breeder" in 2-3 years now have pups that are old enough to be getting hips x-rays and failing hips and health issues start showing up in these pups and the "honest and ethical Breeder" decides to go into selling something else?  What happens when said "Breeder" chooses to hide out and change their breeder name, their ID and their email contact, what do the buyers of their puppies do now? What good was the "puppy guarantee"  when they need to contact this breeder now for a replacement puppy and no puppies are being bred by this breeder? How do they get their replacement puppy their guarantee assured them of at time of purchase? What good is this breeder and their "guarantee" when the "breeder" is now selling High Dollar kittens with fancy guarantees instead, to new and unsuspecting buyers? Do these puppy buyers now get a kitten for a puppy replacement? ptffffffffffff

This question is to assist all those that did buy their puppy for the "fancy guarantee" that came with their puppy that "justified" the high dollar price tag and fell for a fancy website with a fancy talking "breeder" and now are left in "mid-air".

I remember many years ago falling for a Landscape Designer that offered a 100% guarantee for all the shrubs and trees they installed for me for a 2 year period. Sounded like a good deal so I decided it sounded real good, and I went with them.  Then the next Spring when 2 shrubs and 1 tree were dead and I decided to give them a call about the plants, surprise! They no longer were in business, phone was disconnected and their ads no longer appeared in the phone books. What now? Made me wonder what options these puppy buyers have now?


Sue-Ann

by Sue-Ann on 23 July 2008 - 13:07

AKC claims average burn out time for a breeder is 5 years.  To start, based on that statistic, go with a long standing breeder.  Secondly if the guarantee sounds too good to be true, pass.  It's one thing to offer a guarantee, it's another to honor it.


Arrakis

by Arrakis on 23 July 2008 - 13:07

I think this will be a sign of the times... A lot of dog owners are having dispersal sales due to the economy. ~Poof~ They are gone... No recourse.

I have a question for you though and I emailed and asked you about it and you never answered me.

Why did you deliberately breed a female that ~is~ displastic and whelped the litter a few months ago?

So where do you classify yourself?

Where will YOU be when that litter you produced is two years old and a heart broken dog owner finds out you screwed them too?

Tell Us? 


by TheOne on 23 July 2008 - 13:07

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN!


by Larrydee on 23 July 2008 - 13:07

I't's very simple DON'T pay these outrageous prices. If you do your homework and be patient you can get a reasonably priced GSD.  Watch the prices come tumbling down if more conumers adopted this policy.


MI_GSD

by MI_GSD on 23 July 2008 - 14:07

I'll (hopefully) be having a litter soon so that I can keep one or two pups back from my male before he is retired from breeding.  Since there will be no guarantee, I'm just dropping the price.  I know that I probably will never have another litter so a guarantee would do the buyer no good at all.  I could lie and say, hey I'll give you your full purchase price of $1500 back in two years if anything goes wrong" but it ain't gonna happen the way I'm always animal poor.

 


VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 23 July 2008 - 15:07

I paid a hefty price tag for my Rikkor Bad-Boll daughter and by the time she came up with a bad hip, the guy was no longer breeding. I wouldn't have sent her back anyway. It's the price I paid and the chance I took for buying from a "new" breeder.  Live and learn, s**t happens.


Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 23 July 2008 - 15:07

You buy the bloodline when you buy a puppy. The guarantee is from the breeder. Why would you buy an expensive puppy from a breeder who hasn't been doing it long enough to know what they are doing, doesn't have an established return customer base, no solid long-term reputation, thus offers guarantees they cannot fulfill?

When I buy a puppy (and I do, from time to time, to add to my bloodlines) I ask for a "no-guarantees" price. Chances are I'm not going to ever see anything from any guarantee anyway. The Europeans laugh at us for our hang-ups on guarantees. They liken it to to asking one's wife for a full guarantee the kids will all be top students and Olympic athletes... when you're standing at the alter.

SS


EKvonEarnhardt

by EKvonEarnhardt on 23 July 2008 - 15:07

This is nothing new people - it happens all the time. Warranties are wishful thinking for most.

Buyers only want it when there is something wrong reguardless they let their out of control children pounce on the puppy, ride the dog around (there was an ad like that) and HE MUST BE 150  pounds reguards if his structure can handle it or not, Ol Roy is dog food see it says it on the bag!!!  the list goes on and on

85% of Seller place it on thier puppies because they know MOST buyer are not going to OFA their dogs, hell most buyers do not even spend enough time with their dogs to know what is going on with them, IF that gait looks normal, oh fido is a couch potatoe.  Maybe Fido can't move and is in pain. They also do it so it looks good and  because every other person is giving it , or how about the ones that make you JUMP though a hoop, over a gate and though a tunnel  just so you can get a warranty but  only if you keep receipts, feed this type of food and pay 25% back for a restocking fee!

then you have the 15% that try very hard to be ethical and do it by the book - that do replace, give back refunds and trys like hell to make everyone happy. Only to find out that  -those 85 % is talking crap about you to make thier own puppy sells!

So here is my advise

1. Research you seller see how long they have been around.

2. Ask  what they do for a living? if it is breed and sell dogs,  then ask your self this What happens when that runs dry (which most do) what happens to your warranty? bye bye

3.Only buy/spend what you can afford to LOSE  puppies are a gamble due to it is a LIVING animal not a car or a house.

EK


sueincc

by sueincc on 23 July 2008 - 16:07

i would never buy a pup based on a guarantee.  i buy based on the knowledge, reputation and relationship i have with the breeder.  that way you won't go wrong.






 


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