Fred Samseer and Carla van Duyvenbode - Page 1

Has anyone ever worked with these trainers or herd anything about them? Just by looking at there acomplishments they seem to definetly know what the heck they are doing. Any info would be geatly appreciated but please no bashing just constructive critisism.

It might be much more forthright and helpful for you to say what it is you really want to know about these people and ask for private messages. And do you know what the heck a trainer, any trainer, should or should not be doing or should or should not know? If not, why ask for someone to give "constructive critisism"? I have never HEARD of them, but that means nothing. They might be fine trainers.

Since Virginia Beach is very close to Norfolk, perhaps it would be worth your while to attend a training session.

In this way,you can form your own opinion of their training merits,techniques,and philosophies. Just a thought.

They've done a lot of work with Bouviers and Malinois. I haven't seen them work dogs in about 8 years now, but they did a lot of defense/civil work back when I saw them.

You should visit them and see what you think. I've never heard any cautionary tales about them, and they're somewhat local (I'm in central Virginia). At trials, they are very pleasant guests and always nice to talk with.

well hodie i agree that the best thing to do is to go check them out myself except for one thing. They are in virginia and i am in hawaii. So sue me if i want to learn as much as i can before i get there. If you were going to buy a dog would you just buy it from a breeder and find out for yourself or would you research that breeder and found out any negatives to there program before you make a mistake. Im sure they are fine people and from the research i have done they are great trainers i just wanted to see if anyone had any kind of oppinion on them and there club that mite be helpful

 Smartguy,

If you would have been around here a long time you would find I am one who ALWAYS tells people to do their homework before purchasing a dog, sending a dog for training, co-owning etc.

My suggestion is that you use "google", the search function here, and ask here for PRIVATE emails to you since these people have NOT been discussed over and over again. There are some who have been discussed over and over again, for reasons that are not flattering to them. A better way to start might simply to be asking for private communications. I would doubt you would see many negatives, but I don't know because, as I said, I never heard of them. So yes, do your due diligence, especially since you live in Hawaii. And again, such a broad question is rather pointless. What exactly do you wish to know? That would help you get the information you need, rather than just a lot of words.

point taken hodie.

I wantd to know about there training styles, (in the opinion of people who have worked with them or have seen them work) attitude towards training, the people they train with(are they friendly or just all buisness) and the enviroment during training as a few examples of what I was looking for. If anyone can elaberate on any of thisplease dont hesitate to PM me

Smartguy, now that last post is likely to get you more useful information I think. Good luck in your search. Are you looking for a dog or for training?

Enjoy that place you live in!

Training. I have two dogs already