Need help - Page 1

Hi guys after searching and searching I think I finally found the pup that I want.

I need your help because I am not good at looking at a pedigrees and I would like someone with little bit knowledge tell me more what I can expect from a puppy from that litter. As well if any one dealt with this person before please give me any insights.

From what I seen so far he is a great guy that knows what he is doing and his current breeding is a answer to my search.

Dam: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/502521.html

Sire: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/493843.html

Thanks for your input and help.

By the way guys he is almost next door to me, and this is a big plus for me.

The dam has Czech on one side of her pedigree and W. German on the other.  I really like the looks of her.  She's just two though so has he had her hips sent in yet?  I don't see an HD rating on her.

Not a great picture of the sire but he looks like he has some substantial bone and a nice head.  Pedigree is good although He has an NZ rating pretty close up.  The dam has an NZ in her pedigree but it's farther back.

Have you had a chance to go over and meet the dogs yet?  I would think it would be worth it to go check them out and get a good feel for the breeder and his dogs.

I want to go check it out this week. I like the Dam as well, I belive the hips were done on the dam.

The pedigree means nothing if the sire or dam don't impress you so you have the advantage in being able to meet them.

Thats true, this is why I never got comfortable with looking at Pedigrees I always prefer seeing actual dam and sire if possible.

seems like a nice pedigree on both sides some nice dogs i don't like the looks of the father but looks ain't everything

i would definitely go and have a look

Dam is barely two? does she have an HD ofa yet? she was bred before she was two so Id ask for a copy of the OFA certification before you pay down on a pup. Would be better to know if Dam was ok before you take a chance. I like the dam real well.  Sire is nice size just a bad pic of him.

PEDIGREE DOES NOT MEAN A THING. DO NOT BUY A DOG BECAUSE OF A PIECE OF PAPER with a lot of names on it that mean nothing to you in the first place.

If you want to be successful and get the dog you want, you must FIRST evaluate YOU. What is it that you are seeking in a dog? What do YOU want the dog to do and what will YOU do with the dog? Be realistic. Don't say you will do something that takes lots of time and effort and money when, in fact, you know deep in your heart you will likely not follow through. How much experience do YOU have with dogs in general and GSDS in particular?

These are a FEW of the things you should be asking yourself. THEN you find an honest, known breeder who has a track record and you go see that person and their facility. You ask questions. You look at the mother and father of litters, you look at the pups. You go to others at the same time. You ask for copies of contracts, paperwork etc. to look at, and you ask ahead of time if you do not know what you are looking at.

There are many additional steps to successful buying of a pup. If you have been reading this forum for a while you should realize that if you do not know what you are doing, you are highly likely to not get what you want, or worse, get screwed over. But a lot of how that process goes depends on you.

Finally, who gives a flying hoot what people here say about a pedigree? They cannot know the pups or probably even have a clue about the sire and dam and the temperament, structure or health of what they produce. People here did have to point out that one of the breeding pair is underaged. You should already have noted that and know what the issues are. If you don't care the dog is underage, fine. But it generally says a lot about the breeder when they breed dogs who are underage and do not have minimal health checks.

This is meant to help you avoid coming back here in a few weeks or months complaining because the dog is not what you expected. As I said, there is a lot more to be learned on your part about any prospective pup or litter you consider, and much more to be learned about the breeder.

Good luck.

They both got four legs??????????

Go for it!!!!!!!!

(Sorry, I'm annoyed!)

Good Luck!

Or should I say "Good Lucky"!