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by TheDogTrainer on 16 July 2008 - 04:07
Someone posted about the Black Shepherd with the huge white spot....
Check this out:
http://www.pandashepherds.com/
Also, Jimmy Moses, the owner of a top AKC GSD SHOW DOG, Geneva, that do has a huge white stripe down her chest....

by VonIsengard on 16 July 2008 - 05:07
Oh, we've been down the panda road before...at least they are trying to get completely separate recognition and split from the GSD.

by TheDogTrainer on 16 July 2008 - 05:07
I can't decide if they are pretty or not.....I like dogs with white on them(IE< Australian Shepherds, Border Collies and Collies)
But, mostly, if I am going to go with those breeds----I like the blue merles...
But again, I can't decide if I like them or not....They say that they are pretty soft temperment wise..

by Sunsilver on 16 July 2008 - 13:07
If you want to know where Geneva inherited the white spot from, take a look at this!
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/451366.html
She's sired by Dallas, who also sired 5 of the 11 dogs competing at Westminister this years, so, I think we can expect a lot more American line dogs with large white spots to be showing up, as everyone in the American GSD world is going crazy over Dallas and his progeny.
Hmm...Banker's head presents an interesting contrast to the collie-like head on that black dog we were talking about in the other thrread. Not too many Am. breds out there with such short, blocky muzzles!

by tigermouse on 16 July 2008 - 13:07
yuck

by Mindhunt on 22 July 2008 - 22:07
Add that to the list of Shiloh and King Shepherds. These Panda Shepherds look like Beauceron that is disqualified because it has white on it.

by Elkoorr on 23 July 2008 - 02:07
This kinda makes you speechless. Makes you think that a collie or beagle did some fencing...... A tri colered shepherd with blue eyes??? Tzzzzz.

by jletcher18 on 23 July 2008 - 03:07
and people wonder why i lean to the working line dogs!!!!!!
john

by katjo74 on 23 July 2008 - 03:07
Well, jletcher, I hate to burst your bubble on this exhausted subject, but the original 'Panda" GSD Frankie (the tri-color female GSD with the blue eyes) was sired by a WORKING line sch-titled import. [It pays to mention, this tri-coloring is NOT a rarity as portrayed, but just something that can happen in some GSD bloodlines; I've seen GSD pups offered on Hoobly with the EXACT same markings, even advertised as panda shepherds, but sold with breeding rights for just a few hundred bucks or so-different breeders: http://www.hoobly.com/0/0/620135.html, http://www.hoobly.com/0/0/618574.html ] The original panda GSD person is in Ohio, and its extremely rare for them to give breeding rights to their panda GSDs.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/279451.html is Frankie's sire, Brain vom Wolper Lowen SchH3. From Fado Karthago, Fero Zeuterner Himmelreich, etc.-working lines all the way. Would you expect that?
Frankie's mother was a black untitled American line/working line combination female named Madchen Alspach (spelling might be slightly off there).
Madchen's father (grandfather of Frankie) was a black male named Shadow Oaks Texas' Star( the WH is a watchdog title, not meaning he was white like some have mistaken in the past) out of lines like Azuro Vom Schloss Umpfertal, Hero Vom Farmenblick, CH Amigo Vom Land Der Berge, CH Eko-Lan's Paladen, CH Covy's Soulema Of Tucker Hill, CH Jerland Jeda Warrior, Majesty's Prince Of Kovaya CD, and others. I have an official AKC-generated pedigree on Madchen's sire Texas in my possession.
All I remember is Madchen's mother being called "Dia". I have no idea her color, but I think she

by katjo74 on 23 July 2008 - 04:07
...had at least some DDR background. I never met her but just heard about her.
I met and knew both Texas and Madchen in person on multiple accounts to know for a fact they were both black GSDs.
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