what is the TRIPLE PELVIC OSTEOTOMY ? - Page 1

what is the   TRIPLE PELVIC OSTEOTOMY ? a friend has a 8 month dog with an a3 hip.the doctor said that the dog need now before he become 10 month old this kind of operation.does anybody knows if it works and how ?

I know that some-one that bought a puppy from us recently went to their vets with their 5 month old beautiful male puppy because he had loose stools.  The vet first of all checked the dog for the problem he came in with, then checked his legs and made him squeal - then told the owner that he would probably need this op within 2 weeks because he had H.D.

Clever vet I would say to be really sarcastic.  On the other hand, when the owner said he wasnt insured, the vet stated - and I quote.....

"Lets pretend we never had this conversation until you have him insured then, but we will have to get it done"

If this is what the veterinary profession is getting up to in the UK, goodness knows how we will weed out the good from the bad.  I referred the man and his beautiful puppy to my own vet, without me calling my own vet at all, and without the man telling him the story, just because of the loose stool, and there was - according to my vet - no other problem with the puppy that he could see.

the vets practice that gave that advice?   Scardales - Derbyshire - I think its time people stood up and made this type of treatment known.  I rang the practice manager there and left her a message to register my feelings on this matter, and her answer was that she couldnt discuss this as I was not the owner of the dog.  I wasnt asking for a discussion, I merely wished for her to know what type of treatment this puppy that I bred had received when he went with a loose stool.  Which, incidentally cleared immediately that he had the medication.

What chance to novice owners have.    Mo - Mascani.

This is going to sound very bad but this surgery actually works very well...

The triple pelvic osteotomy consist in cutting the pelvic bones in 3 places so they can realigne it with the correct angle.

It is always done on young dogs before osteoarthosis appear.  After it is to late and you have to do a complete replacement of the hip.  

That is why they want to do it now before 10 months.

Heres a very good website with an explanation to the surgical procedure.

http://vetsurgerycentral.com/tpo.htm

Why do this surgery? ALL Vets want is money. All dogs get arthritic  as they age, even with good hips. My second German Shepherd, Dana had  Grade 3 HD in her right hip. She lived to be 12 years old without surgery, and she had to be put down due to DM.

I agree with Mo - Mascani.

More links ...

http://www.vetschool.bris.ac.uk/langford/cas/orthopaedic/triple_pelvic_osteotomy.html

http://www.vetortho.co.uk/Greenmount%20orthopaedic%

20referrals_files/page0008.htmhttp://www.dogstuff.info/options_in_treatment_dysplastic_dog.html 

This is MAJOR surgery and I'd want to be 100% sure that it was necessary. Get a second opinion...

my point was that this puppy that went to the vets, showed NO SIGNS of any problem, and the owner took the puppy to the vets for medication for loose stools.... Mo - M<ascani.

Similar situation with one of my puppy buyers a year ago.   Puppy left my house healthy, but as all pups,  they need to be continued on vacc. and worming schedule. 

They went to the vet and left with antibiotics for bacterial infection, giardia medication, a very strange worming pill, another vacc. , before pup was due,  it was all  Very odd. 

So, they called me to let me know, and of course I was rather aggitated at the vet service they recieved.   

Well, needless to say puppy was fine, they had no problems with him. 

Then a couple week went by and they started going to a puppy class, well about a week or so after they started puppy class he started getting loose stool .   So, they took him back to the vet.   Here we go again,  though, they did not call me this time.   Vet gives them a whole host of products, that never get the job done.  So, they keep going back , after getting near over a $1000 dollars later, they finally call me and let me know what has been going on.  

They started the conversation rather upset, because the latest trip to the vet told them that the puppy Had a pancrease problem and they needed to run all sorts of tests, and the puppy will have to be on expensive medicine his whole life. 

Needless to say,  I was " NOT HAPPY " !!!!    I told them I would bring them every thing they need.   That the logical problem is that the puppy picked up  " whipworms"   at the training potty area .  and needed to be treated accordingly,  three days in a row, and to get his gut Flora back to where it needs to be since the vet kept putting him on antibiotics unneccesarily!! 

I put them on a cooked chicken and rice only diet, as well as getting them some probios, and whipworm med, and also, a regular worming schedule, and had them write down dates and how long and often, with what dosage.  Also, had them change off of the food that the training class so convienently sold them.  Which wasn't my favorite food for German shepherd puppies. 

Long story short, it was a combination of bad food, bad vet and a simple case of whipworms. 

" NOT A FAILING PANCREASE !!! "

It is unfortunate that there are greedy vets out there , or really that most Vets are not breeders, so they are really IGNORANT when it comes to solving simple problems like this.  I am not sure which one this vet was. 

I am blessed with a Vet that has taken the time to teach me a lot, as well as he has always been open minded to my suggestions as well.  

I agree with Mo on this. One of my pups from last year was sold to a family in Stevenage UK and went to the vet with a skin infection. The vet couldn't resist commenting on his wobbly legs, which one would expect in a well angulated 17 week old pup. This pup had no other symptoms He was Xrayed within days at a cost of £250 to the insurance company and referred urgently to a specialist. They did further Xrays at a cost of over £300 and booked the pup in for a juvenile pubic symphiodesis a few days later.

The owners contacted me and I asked to see the dogs and his plates. The X-ray was of poor quality and twisted and indeed the hips did not look great, but not bad enough for surgery.  I spoke to my own vet who said he thought the hips were not poor enough for invasive surgery and advised conservative treatment of hydrotherapy 3 times a week and glucosamine and chondroitin supplements. The dog was re-Xrayed at eight months by my vet at a fraction of the cost. I have tried to insert the 8 month X-ray below, after 4 months of hydrotherapy.

This is not the first time this has happened, some years ago one of my puppies living in Surrey was advised a hip replacement. His BVA Score came back..........2:3 = 5.

This dog has been X-rayed again and we are awaiting his BVA score. 

Katrina (Kesyra)