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jletcher18

by jletcher18 on 18 November 2009 - 03:11

i still havent  figured out how belonging to both organizations is a conflict of interest.    could someone please explain.  is this really just about a difference in  the standard that each follow?   i can see  how it could be if  you were an officer or board member,  but just a member?  

john


 


by Louise M. Penery on 18 November 2009 - 06:11

Beats me! They are both judged according to the FCI breed standard by SV judges.

The Johannes amendment is about ego, power, and control--JMHO....

Abbi's mom

by Abbi's mom on 18 November 2009 - 07:11

  Well this sucks BIG!!! All I want to do is train and compete and I enjoy competing where ever there is a trial when my dog and I are ready. I also like to support trials in and around my area. I could care less who they belong to. Why is this such a bad thing????????? Can I be an auslander of all of them and compete? That sounds better all the time. My club could be torn apart because of this crap. Gee how fun  :(
 Politics SUCK!
Cathy

Kim Gash

by Kim Gash on 18 November 2009 - 14:11

No, to compete at a USA trial the amendment was passed that you MUST be a member.  All other clubs you do not have to be a member to compete at a local trial level, up to nationals - then and only then when you are trying to get on a team, must you join that team's club that you are trying to compete for.  You may also compete at USA local trials IF you are a member of any of the AWDF clubs - like DVG.  I don't think they changed that rule to include "unless you are a member of anther GSD club"  But as no one has published the amendemnts yet, have to wait to see what is specified -

snajper69

by snajper69 on 18 November 2009 - 14:11

This is just bunch of BS if you ask me. I hope USA will get what  is coming thier way.


Abbi's mom

by Abbi's mom on 18 November 2009 - 16:11

Oh the drama!! I think I'll go watch Young and the Restless for now. Give my brain a break from dog drama to worthless drama  :)
 

3crzygsds

by 3crzygsds on 18 November 2009 - 20:11

It is crazy.....and BS this weekend at a trial I watched a top competitor with a SCH3 atleast 4xs over do a BH with a dog because he did his BH a few years back with WDA and did not want any problems in Florida in at Mali Nationals.
How ridiculous is that, so does everyone have to redo whatever they did not do with USA over? 
While I know that has not been announced, I think he was being proactive just incase!
crazy crazy!

Elkoorr

by Elkoorr on 20 November 2009 - 19:11

germanshepherddog.com/documents/2009GBMAmendments.pdf

Here are the 2009 amendments for all to read. Kim, where do you got the info from that you have to be an USA member to trial at an USA trial? I did not see it in this amendment.

Crazygsds....that is some crazy sh$$ and it wasnt necessary. Titles itself are not affected at all and are carried on. Even if one is a USCA member and trials at an GSDCA-WDA trial, the title is recognized, it just means you will be expelled by USCA. And I guess then you join the other ones...lol

by Christopher Smith on 20 November 2009 - 19:11

It is crazy.....and BS this weekend at a trial I watched a top competitor with a SCH3 atleast 4xs over do a BH with a dog because he did his BH a few years back with WDA and did not want any problems in Florida in at Mali Nationals.

1. USCA's rules having nothing to do with AWMA ( Mali national)

2. The AWMA National is an IPO event. No BH is need in IPO.




Kim Gash

by Kim Gash on 21 November 2009 - 01:11

WHOA ELKOORR -

I just deleted my response because I just looked at where you got what you posted from -

You just gave the link to the PROPOSED AMENDEMENTS there is nothing posted regarding what was passed - the agenda is at http://www.germanshepherddog.com/documents/2009GBMagenda.pdf  and therein are the other motions I have refered to - then it refers to the ATTACHMENT for the amendments which is what the link you posted is.  The two documents go together and are collectively what went to vote.

There are minutes posted yet.

According to posts on the Yahoo Groups USA page, it and other motions on the agenda were passed including the amendments you did the document link to.   I beleive the sieger HOT points was the only thing that did not pass.

You need to put both documents together, then for verification absolute, read the minutes when they come out.






 


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