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Hi, I have a question on this type of breeding.

Let's say a litter is line bred 3-3 or 4-4 on a certain dog,does this type of breeding takes away or lessens the guess work on the litter's temperament and characteristics? Let's say the litter is line bred 3-3 or 4-4 on a dog that is known for serious aggression , is it possible to say that the puppies would be the same or more likely to be like that?

Thanks

Any line breeding you do for whatever your reasons is very likely to produce any faults the dogs may have as well as their virtues !.

a dog that has aggression issues should not be bred in the first place and you would not want to line breed from him/her BIG MISTAKE..

trueview

The idea with line-breeding is to give an idea of 'controlling'  and predicting what you're producing rather than a complete outcross where you basically are left to fate as to what you produce. And yes, when line-breeding, you're condensing the genetic make-up of the dog you've line-bred on in the pups; thus, both good and bad can come out of such. The hope is the good stuff, but it's also possible bad stuff can surface totally unexpected.

Ultimately, some pups line-bred on an aggressive dog may turn out fine, but others could potentially be walking liabilities; I would think that could be potentially hard to determine until the entire litter bred for such was mature. Why would a breeder wanna put themselves at potential risk of that, when there's so many other nice GSDs out there who work awesome & have a reasonably priced stud fee without aggression issues?

Katio :  Look at the name of the poster and that tells you why

Thanks katjo & trueview ,btw I was just saying that the serious aggression as an example that the puppies possibly inherit thru line breeding,maybe I should have said a dog with a good nose for tracking.

tigermouse

What I meant on serious aggression is not like a dog running around like a maniac and biting every person it sees,that kind of dog has nerve issues and should not be bred. What I meant was something like this www.tiekerhook.com

Maybe they are too much for a pet,but would fit into being a service dog,,ppd,police,military etc...stable dogs with the balls to defend and protect when the need arises,these type of dogs need to have aggression to do these things...a dog that is nervy with inappropriate,unwarranted aggression is not what I meant.

I hope I am clear with what I meant on serious aggression.

Thanks for explaining .  Sounds better now.    Breeding lines has to be a long tedius research .  It takes lots of homework and  the Tiekerhook lines are very serious, and you have to be careful with them.... I only had one problem with using a son of Orthos v Tiekerhook /Anika v Fuerstenburg, and that was bred to my daughter of Cadett v BuseckerSchloss/Zilla v Wiethurchen , and that was ears.   What is called   "soft " appeared in two litters,  out of two different daughters of the lines mentioned...so I just didnt breed that combination again....they stood,,,but fluttered in almost all the pups in both litters...Never had ears in any other combination of any of my breedings on the other lines....flutter or fail to be erect to the sky...

Traits good and bad have to be studied and tried...and eliminated...Some like the high bite, and prey and work of that line and maybe dont care if the ears have a flutter...have to decide what is important to you and what your passing on....

Thank you yellowrose

It seems that novice breeders should not do this and leave it to experienced breeders who know each dog on the sire and dam's pedigree.

Huge difference between 3,3 and lets say 4,5 and it really depends what else is in the mix. If dogs used in the linebreed are also linebred well it can get very complicated for even an experienced breeder to figure out. As one told me after many years in the show line breeding each litter is a crap shoot anyway you never know what you will get and a repeat breeding may even produce entirely different results. If your goal like mine is to produce great pups you start with the best healthy adults and breed small litters experiment as you go and enjoy the learning process rather than some who seem to be desparately planning to produce the next champion with the first litter. I have never linebred maybe after many more years of studying the sweet little results of my outcrosses I will try but for now variety is the fun part.