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by mandrina on 22 May 2008 - 19:05
Hello - This might not be a very smart question, but here it goes...
It seems that Zender has been used as stud many many times. There are and have been other top competitors with higher accomplishments that have not been used for stud nearly as Zender. Is there a particular reason that you feel that sets Zender apart as a stud dog from the other top competitors? How is his progency doing? i appreciate the feedback!
by Jogger on 22 May 2008 - 21:05
You need to understand foremost, that "higher accomplishments" does not always = Great Stud Dog. Zender has been used so much because has a very desirable tempermant to some breeders. The dog is all business, and very little play, he is a very serious dog. Nowadays "prey-machine" sport dogs are everywhere! GSD's with real hardness and high social aggression in the bloodline are getting harder and harder to find. There is a very small storm brewing amongst a few kennels in Europe, in Netherlands and Belgium mostly, a couple in Germany also. They are making a very concerted effort to focus on breeding for a higher social aggression level. These dogs with the higher aggression levels may not win the WUSV every year, but if they have a solid temperment with higher aggression and are bred to high quality females, the end result is a more "REAL" dog. Their have been countless dogs that have done very well in competition, but went on to only produce nothing.
He has progency that are showing great promise, but many of them are still young and have more maturing and developing to do. As with all stud dogs, time will tell the whole story.
by Tiger Dragon on 22 May 2008 - 21:05
Jogger, do you know where I can find some videos of Zender's progeny? Which are the most important qualities that Zender gives to his sons?
by Jogger on 22 May 2008 - 21:05
Well if you want the best information straight from the source, you really should contact Zender's owner personally.
Zender currently resides at:
Kennel van de Hogemeentocht, Rumst, Belgium
phone: (+32) 03-888-69-32
Video footage may be hard to locate at this point. I don't like to usually do this but.... His protection work is very highly thought of in Belgium. When bred to excellent females (hard with good agression) he tends to produce his own defense levels well, his progency tend to be the type that need to be handled by a "strong hand". I have my own info on him, but for the record I'm no Zender expert. If you have any good friends in Belgium they could give you much more detailed and informative descriptions of his, and his progeny's strong points.
I found a page a few weeks back through some google searching that stated their was frozen semen availible for Zender. I tried locating it the other day, and couldn't seem to re-find it. I have heard this also, but again, this I have not yet been able to confirm for myself. I would not take it for the gospel, but if your highly interested in him and actually have a GREAT female, it may be something you might want to investigate further for yourself. I have to step out to get some food, so good luck in your search.
by Get A Real Dog on 23 May 2008 - 15:05
I have only seen one Zender pup. He was a nice dog but I was not blown away, but he was only 8 months and I only saw him a couple of times. He had nice drive, was clear in the head, and built pretty stout. He was pretty square and bluky where as Zender is long and lean. I saw good but not over the top prey and a nice grip. However I did not see anything that I would call serious social aggression, but did see what I would forcast as good prey aggression. With that said this particular trainer does not touch on aggression at all until the dog is 14-16 months. He liked him and likes dogs that are "crazy" and I would trust his judgement of a dog.
I have heard (but as always take with a grain of salt) that Zender does not produce what he is. I would need to see more pups from him to really form an opinion.
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