The so called accredited breeder scheme (U.K) - Page 1

just wanted a rant...what on earth were the kc thinking???

i became a member over a year ago and have since realized IT MEANS NOTHING.

i have had no home check no phone call not a flippin sausage what a waste of £15

has anyone had a home check??

it is apparent that this is yet another money making scheme and nothing to do with good breeding practice.

its about time that good breeders were recognised properly .

what do you think?

Could'nt agree more with what you are saying.We thought  about joining it until we heard of  more than one  accredited breeder who had mated bitches with hips well over the breed average. KC are  still  prepared to register the offsprinf without a problem.

They seem to allow any Tom ,Dick or Harry to join making it a total insult to genuine breeders who have joined the scheme

The KC spent  all crufts promoting the scheme telling the public that if they go to an accredited breeder they should basically get a healthy dog,but seem to be doing no checks on what is registered to try and improve things

Maybe  it would be an idea if us responsible breeders who already breed to a standard that exceeds  what the scheme requires were to write to the KC telling we will not be joining their scheme and why

As you say just another way for the KC to take more  money

i also joined this scheme and like you have never had a visit.

I do beleive they need to reevaluate their ethics of the scheme. IE: maximum hip score etc.

Good afternoon  to   the accredited breeders who have spoken out against the scheme.

I  as a FOUNDER MEMBER of this scheme was thinking the same, then just before Crufts this year  I received a letter requesting that a representative of the Scheme visit me to check me out.

Right I thought in for a penny in for a pound . One can't have an opinion and voice it then maon cos they check you out.

All  docuemnets / pedigrees/ and receipt books (for tax  etc) records of sales/ records of dogs and health/ the law on sales and  breeding/ if one identifies and what  is used to fo this/ who the Vet is/ you name it one has to have it ready. The inspect kennels/ whelping area's / proof of exercise and feeding regime, think of anything idf you can think of it  you will have it checked.

Proof of X-ray's DNA   and other health schemes.

Photo's are taken. you sign that all you have submitted is correct. If you are found to be falsifying facts it goes against you..

I had the person here 3 hours. It is not your own breed person who comes but  another breed and I can say they do know  what they are asking and what they expect.

I also found out to date  there have been 20 odd people dleted from the list, and they have not a hope in hell of getting back onto it again!

You are not told at that point whether you have  been passed to stay on the list.

So   yes the KC are going round checking

Bravo for them. Must say  was pleased to co-operate and get some useful suggestions from the visit. Yes I did pass.

Superdog

thank you for the reassurance but i still think we need more from the kc perhaps some sort of gold stamp for those of us who go the extra mile with health testing etc. i do feel let down by the kc as the scheme sounded great separating the byb's from the truly good breeders.

but i am very pleased to hear that at long last they are checking us out i cant wait for my inspection they will think I'm completely barmy (my hubby thinks im mad) just spent a fortune on new kitour new puppy play pen

The Kennel Club (UK) accredited Breeders Scheme certainly needs very close examination and scutiny, and in my opinion a cxomplete overall.  It gives me the clear impression of a poorly designed and poorly monitored scheme. Perhaps Superdogs "inspection" was a TOKEN inspection, simply done so that SOMEONE can state they have been INSPECTED.
 

good point videx i haven't heard of any other inspections apart from superdogs

I know 1 accredited breeder that also had a visit from the K.C. but that was only because  another breeder who they fell out with couldn't resist telling them that they had reported them to the K.C. so I think the K.C. usually have to have a reason similar to that before they make visits !.

I was going to join the scheme but after reading their pathetic requirements I decided it was no more than a farce , especially when their recommendations should be their requirements !!!!!!.

The worst of it is that the K.C. are conning the public into thinking that accredited breeders are the best of the best ! , which of course they should be but many cases they are not and shouldn't be even breeding !.

The idea is good but just not thought out properly, The K.C. are very good at thinking up schemes to make themselves money !!!.

One can compare other organisations on this.

BAGDS/ League and the Breed Council all have a list of  Breeders who are expected to  be  A1  because they abide by their rules? They sign the Breeders Charter.

BUT NONE are inspected becaues NO ONE has the LAW backing them in doing so, this is govenred by  honesty!

There are people on those lists who really do need to be inspected, are there not?

The RSPCA  can appear at ones door but you do not HAVE to allow them onto your property although it might be in your best  interests to do so.

There is not only our breed that are being inspected but all who care to apply to join.

One of the many  items one has to pass out to the new purchaser is a questionnaire which YOU as an Acc. Breeder request they fill in. Now that done  it can also leave one in the firing line.

One actually has to state in writing that one is affended by anothers  practises. I was told that if one cares to approach them at any of the registered functions one can have a list of Acc Breeders.
There are one has to say people on this list who should not be there, and ALL will be checked but it takes time. The person who came to me called only on two others that day in my area.

The scheme was promoted to GET PEOPLES INTEREST and get them to support. fo r 20 persons to be  taken from the scheme already tells one the check is being done really well.

I have been to kennels where I cannot understand how they ever function the stench comes to meet one. By the way this is another thing that is checked.

Superdog.

I agree withall the negative comments here regarding the scheme - and yes I am a member of it - why? Because I didnt need  to change my best practice to meet up with their requirements, and I thought at its inception that it would be a good scheme to bring about good practice, but I feel its laughable now, and know more people that are insterested in keeping out of it for all the right reasons each time I hear it discussed.  Its a money spinner without a doubt.  What about this one - I know of a kennel that NEVER BRED A LITTER and they were advertising on their site that they were accredited breeders - and so they were officially !!   Its just a joke now, but as long as Joe Public are being told by the KC that accredited breeders are something special, I will keep in the scheme, so that I am not deemed inferior to people that perhaps have never bred a litter in their lives !  Mo Lakin - Mascani.