Training the Out - Page 1

I've heard many different techniques for trainin the out and would like to hear from some of the experienced ones here. I have a couple of young dogs, doing great on tugs and/or sleeve, but would like to know the best way to train the out.

How are they outing on the tug?  What are your goals for them and how old are they?

We started my 1 yr old outing off the sleeve tonight. In OB I started teaching his out of the tug a few weeks ago along with barking as a pre out training. As soon as he outs with or with out the correction he is rewarded with a bite and some more tugging before freezing and calming then outing.

My TD had him on the back tie and I has another line on the pinch and when he freezes, I wait a fraction of a second and then I popped him and pulled him back a little and then we rewarded with another bite/drive etc. we did this a few times by the 3rd or 4th he was outing on command with out a correction, but I pulled him back just a little and then we rewarded with another bite. Hopefully after a few more sessions of this he will be ready for the next step. My goal is auto outs for him.

Good Luck,

Julie

I recently bought the Ivan Balabanov dvds and have a 12wk old pup outing 1st time every time after only a few sessions. The idea is to make the tug a game and reward comes from outing by immediatly starting the game again as soon as the dog outs. Only give the out command once then immobilize the toy the game ends and is no longer fun for the dog. eventually he releases and is rewarded with praise and the game immediatly restarting. He very quickly learns the sooner he outs the sooner the game restarts. No need for pinch collar or any force to make the dog release. Has worked so far as has his training methods for sits / downs etc

Chkm8- Ivan B is great. I love his style. I also love the Bernard Flinks videos.

That being said some pups don't get their "bite on" as early as others and therefor may not be good candidates for early out training. I am a strong believer in solid bite foundation before teaching the out with the helper.

JM.02

Julie

Hi SchutzhundJunkie,

I also have the Bernard Flinks dvd which as you say is a great dvd. I must also say I am only starting out in bite work and have limited experience so you may well be right in regard to a solid bite foundation before teaching the out. Though in my own pups case his bite improved dramatically once I followed the Ivan B method. I suppose each dog is different as you pointed out.

John.

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Peace!

Julie