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by X Factor on 09 May 2008 - 07:05
Question.
Can anyone tell me why we must do our hips and elbows and Dna through the League system?
by beepy on 09 May 2008 - 08:05
As far as I was aware you did Hips and Elbows under the BVA/KC system not the league. I also prefer the British system as it gives an exact score rather than a flat rating. When you think that normal can be anything up to 18 under the UK system, the UK is a more definitive score rather than blanketing them. It also allows the viewing of imbalances again something the other schemes dont do.

by tigermouse on 09 May 2008 - 08:05
yes beepy you are correct its the BVA not the league the average is 19 but imo should be lower anyway thats another thread
by X Factor on 09 May 2008 - 10:05
Sorry,what i mean is for those of us who wish to do the German scheme.If we want to compete in Germany we must do the A Stamp,Elbows and Dna.
Why must we go through the league.

by Sue B on 09 May 2008 - 10:05
Hi Karen
If you have the dogs xrays done in the UK, then to be submitted to the SV they must go via this countries WUSV club/s and I believe the GSDL was the club which set up the Working Party for this system of submitting the plates, what you also have to realise is that you only have to be a member of the GSDL in order to submit them to the German System and therefore not necessary for you to have SV membership.
Alternatively, if you have SV membership and dog has Pet Passport you could have its xrays done in Germany and the German vet would then submit the plates direct to the SV for you , using your SV membership number. There will also be a fee of course for your dog to be registered with the SV , hence reason you need a 5 Gen pedigree to send along with plates if you go through GSDL system,
In other words using the GSDL scheme just saves you the hassle of Pet Passport, SV Membership, Travelling to Germany, Completing your own paperwork, etc but if you are an SV member, your dog is pet passported, you travel to Germany often (or often enough) and you possibly have some German friends who will help you find the right German vets and complete all the necessary German forms then you dont HAVE TO use the GSDL scheme.
That's as I understand it anyway, though obviously I stand prepared to be corrected.
Regards
Sue B
by beepy on 09 May 2008 - 10:05
tigermouse - Im with you, I think 19 is too high, which is why I dont really like the "normal" that so many people go to Germany for as I feel it doesnt show the higher scores - I would like them to show the lower end of the scale separately.
Im pleased to say that my current bitch has scored 2:6 and Im yet to get my younger one done - something I must do, but havent organised as I want to make sure I get the best x-rays possible, and havent got my old vet any more!

by Sue B on 09 May 2008 - 13:05
Bee;py, Tigermouse I also agree with you on this. I firmly believe we should first be supporting our own Country's scheme, so if a dog/bitch is born and bred in this country then it's xrays should go through our BVA/KC hip scoring scheme, especially if the owners intend breeding on from it here, because the BVA/KC score is the one that appears on the KC Registration papers of all of its progeny - which is very important as it is the only way Mr Joe Public (who buys these pups) can be certain that the breeder has told the truth about the hip score of "his puppies" parents.
However the German scheme is required for those who want to exhibit in Germany and it is good that a scheme is available for those who wish to do this. As for cost, yes it would cost more to do both, but if you can afford to have hips done through German Scheme to exhibit abroad then you can afford to put them through the Uk scheme too, no excuse.
Regards
Sue B
by beepy on 09 May 2008 - 13:05
Well said Sue B - shame you cant put that to all breeders/exhibitors!!
by beepy on 09 May 2008 - 13:05
Can someone confirm for me - the exact translation of hips that are 'a f/normal'?

by Sue B on 09 May 2008 - 13:05
Hi Beepy, Presumably would stand for 'a' fast normal .
Regards
Sue B
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