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by doctor05 on 06 April 2008 - 20:04
ihave the same proble with my dog roki 7 months one testicle normal the other absent what can ido can this transefer to its generations, how can iknow the other tests is normal and what the chance to descend after 8 months thanks

by MI_GSD on 06 April 2008 - 21:04
Yes it is genetic and they can pass the fault to their offspring. They should not be used for breeding. At 7 months old the testicle should be down and I don't think there's a good chance of it coming down now.

by Rezkat5 on 07 April 2008 - 01:04
At 7 months the chances are between slim and none that it will come down now.

by Ryanhaus on 07 April 2008 - 02:04
The vet could give pup a hormone shot,
but if it's way up there, you can probably forget about it.
I had a labrador retriever that didn't have one come down
until he was 6 months old.

by Two Moons on 07 April 2008 - 03:04
If it hasnt dropped by 7 months it probably wont. It may also need to be removed thru surgery. And yes it would be passed on to offspring in my opinion, just my opinion.
Someone gave me a nice GSD once with only one and I dont think anything was ever done about it. He never had any problems as far as that goes. He did produce a litter once also.
JMO

by shasta on 07 April 2008 - 10:04
I think it's controversial. I talk to people in the GSD world who say it's genetic. I have talked to someone in another breed (boxers) who said they took their dog to one of the top breeding specialist vets (forgot what they called her specialty) who said it CAN be passed down, or it can not, it's controversial. there is a hormone shot but personally, then the problem becomes, would it have dropped on its own? if not, then giving the hormone shot lets say fixes it, is it still able to be passed down? And if passed down, the problem continues in further generations.
I personally have a dog with an undescended testicle. I have not done anything with it at this point. He's about 2 years old, waiting for him to fill out best he can. His brother also has an undescended testicle. My thought is there could be worse things wrong with him. It does not affect his ability to work, nor function normally. I personally wouldn't breed with it, but I've known people in other breeds that did and never had it affect their litters. My dogs two brothers have been bred (don't know if that ever made for more undescended testicles or not, but most pet people don't care, just may mean removing it and a more expensive neuter surgery.

by katjo74 on 07 April 2008 - 11:04
Testicles not descending is typically a genetic defect and can affect just one or both. And at 7 months of age, I agree the chances of it descending now are slim to none. Has a vet felt him enough to see if maybe it's just above the scrotal sack but for some reason not able to slip past the opening on down into the sack? It would be worth at least asking your vet. Only if an ultrasound was done to see whether or not he even has the 2nd testicle in his abdominal cavity could you make a precise determination whether he has been affected by a genetic or birth defect.
A very small percentage of cases are congenital (meaning, a birth defect like the cord not being long enough to allow the testicle to drop into the scrotum, or the testicle not even being present at all for some reason), but most are genetic in nature which means yes, it can be passed on. It is unfortunately a defect hidden in alot of really good bloodlines, irregardless of good breeding. Its like anything-if a stud is bred enough times, you're bound to see a defect here and there crop up no matter how great he is.
It is a general wise practice to at least check for testicles to be descended by 8-10 weeks old if you are purchasing a dog you're planning on potentially using for future breeding if all pans out. If you bought the dog as an adult, well, you should've checked to make sure he had both before purchasing him. Everything is a learning experience.
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