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by Jantie on 01 April 2008 - 12:04
The amount of registered pups in the SV-breeding book has dropped in merely 15 years from 34.685 pups in the year 1993, to approximately 16.816 pups in 2007. A scary development indeed. The battle for stud fees increases. Now as before, the studding business is being controlled by only a few males and their owners, those that always occupy the first positions and have made a name for themselves in the Siegershow. Apparently people seem to want to breed solely to the very best, it needs to be "Vorzüglich Auslese" (VA), at least not much less.
So the cake is being shared by only a few “Ausleser”. Does the breed benefit from this? Should we not spread the genes? Should not the vast bloodbasis be used to the fullest? According to SV-informations, in 2007 we had 1.259 different studs at our disposal. Sadly enough most of them will only be used once. Their stud fees might only bring their owners a mere 400 Euro. For this amount, one will not get the services of the top-males listed in my latest study. You will need a thousand Euros for their services, unless you belong to the club. But that is another story altogether.
But do go ahead and see for yourselves. After reading my notes, you may enlighten me or slaughter me:
http://www.bloggen.be/hd/archief.php?ID=128
Links to the accompanying spreadsheets in Excel-format:
http://jantie.demeyere.googlepages.com/WichtigsteDeckrueden2003-2007.xls
http://jantie.demeyere.googlepages.com/WeitereRden2006-2007Gesamtbersicht.xls
I wish you all a healthy GSD!
Jantie

by ladywolf45169 on 01 April 2008 - 14:04
Jantie,
I find all this very interesting...could you possible PM me so we can discuss this further?
Thak you,
Christine

by Dog1 on 01 April 2008 - 16:04
Jantie,
When are you going to get a clue and post something that's close to reality and not some twisted logic?
by D.H. on 01 April 2008 - 17:04
How much can anyone possibly believe someone who cannot even get the basic facts correct?
In 1993 there were 27.648 GSD pups registered in Germany. The VDH (German Kennel Club) has not even published numbers for 2007 yet.
The 'studding' is only 'controlled' by the choices the bitches owners make, nothing else.
More hot air, as usual. No one needs to slaughter you, you already lead a very pityful life dominated by a very unhealthy obsession. And because of that, any grain of good that you may actually uncover somewhere will never get noticed. Good luck influencing the masses in their popular choices.
BTW, in case anyone is interested, breedings to foreign owned bitches (meaning litters will be whelped outside of Germany) are as high as ever. For some of the top males it is sometimes nearly impossible to find a single litter in Germany at a given time. So the majority of these 'concentrated' VA breedings are spread throughout the world.
by Jantie on 01 April 2008 - 18:04
Third try! Sorry, these things don’t seem to be too compatible.
And it’s very frustrating, in the preview, everything seems ok.
DENIAL! DENIAL! Now we won’t even bother to get into that! Breeders and dealers will of course always doubt facts.
OK! Let me continue to offer facts.
1986: 24.546
1987: 25.754
1988: 25.503
1989: 25.189
1990: 29.605
1991: 29.756
1992: 32.131
1993: 34.681
1994: 33.340
1995: 34.278
1996: 32.808
1997: 29.563
by D.H. on 01 April 2008 - 21:04
Here are the actual numbers from 2006 to 1997
and for the years 2002 to 1992
If anyone would like to view the actual source, which is the official website of the German National Kennel Club (VDH), and which lists official data for the last 10 years, click here:
http://www.vdh.de/alles_fuer_medien/welpenstatistik_list.php?suche=Deutscher+Sch%E4ferhund&sort=&go=Go%21
See Jantie, you keep getting your numbers and supposed facts mixed up because you do not know where and how to even begin to look. That is very basis for any study, experiment, claim, trend, statistics, you name it.
Go ahead, keep making a fool of yourself. You picked the perfect day for it too. Merely shouting louder whenever your so called facts are proven to be bogus yet again is not going make anyone hear you any better. But thanks for the joke.
by Jantie on 02 April 2008 - 09:04
Get off my back D.H. Your name spells DENIAL!
You will try and tell everyone Hip Dysplasia is NOT an issue within the GSD-breed, and it’s clear why.
You are a broker and need to sell the crap that breeders can’t and won’t keep.
Was there not an issue here on Pedigreedatabase?
The end of my reply got swept away. Here it is.
1993: 34.681, 1994: 33.340, 1995: 34.278, 1996: 32.808, 1997: 29.563, 1998: 28.147, 1999: 24.445, 2000: 22.228, 2001: 21.781, 2002: 22.466.
All figures are based on SV-Genetics!! Not on figures from the VDH!!
I’m talking SV always! Not the later altered figures.
I have sent my figures to the notorious University Professors, if something is wrong in my statistics, they for sure, will recognize my faults.
P.S.: My life is a pretty happy one, thank you! I’m just writing the letters I need to write, before my end comes, soon enough. No need for you, D.H., to send me any greeting cards lecturing me.
As I said, get off my back, and let people make up their own minds.
This is a place where everyone can speak his mind.
Instead, read the story of Venja vom Haus Musica (I know you read German). Just another story of how one had to deal with a very sick GSD-puppy, already at the age of 10 weeks. Carmen’s story is linked to my website: www.bloggen.be/hd
People
by D.H. on 03 April 2008 - 04:04
by Speaknow on 03 April 2008 - 06:04
by Jantie on 03 April 2008 - 08:04
(Jantie singing: “It’s all about the money, dudumdudumm…”) One must wonder what’s in it for you DH? You are very good at fooling people. You’re entitled to your opinion, so I won’t even bother to get into that, it does not interest me how you make your calculations. Mine are based solely on SV-material, so one cannot get any closer.
Now it made me think of the cyclists in the Tour de France. For multiple years, they just doped away. Journalists challenging this Holy Tour Institution and asking tough questions, were haunted. They were accused of lying, didn’t have proof, didn’t know what they were talking about, were chased from the press conference, threatened with law suits.
You might have followed the debacle last year, after the revelations made in former Telekom soigneur Jef d'Hont's book?
A tearful Erik Zabel appeared at the T-Mobile press conference along with former teammate Rolf Aldag to confess to using the banned blood booster EPO while riding for the Team Telekom in the 1990s.
Aldag confessed to a longer history of doping. He started with EPO before the 1995 Tour de France, and he said that continued with it.
Following the confession by colleague Andreas Schmid, Doctor Lothar Heinrich has admitted his involvement in doping riders of the former Telekom squad. The German had been working as a sports doctor in the team's current incarnation, T-Mobile, up until May 3, when he was suspende from service by T-Mobile Team Manager Bob Stapleton
Later, a Tour de France winner Bjarne Riis admitted that he took EPO, human growth hormone, and cortisone when he won the Tour de France title in 1996. In those days, however, he said it was part of the game, and that he didn't have a choice.
Following a confession last month by 1997 Tour winner Bjarne Riis that he used the banned blood booster EPO (erythropoietin) during his career, Germany's former Paris-Nice winner Jorg Jaksche alleged last week that he was encouraged to dope by the managers of his former teams.
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