Why do breeders sell dogs without breeding rights - Page 1

Sorry, I have a problem with this. I see breeders that ask 1,200 for a pup and dont give any papers, not even limited registeration. So they can make a buck, but FU to the rest of the people? Dont get me wrong I dont believe in puppy mills., but i dont think that a person that buys a good dog, does his research and pays the price, shouldnt be able to breed his dog. I think if a person buys a puppy like this and takes the risk of hips and elbows being ok, they should be able to breed if they want to. Firelight Kennel - For Sale Page -

They dont want you to have the breeding rights to protect the status que.

I dont care what they give for a reason.   Its about money and status.

A breeder told me she didn't want her bloodline watered down.

welcome to the club.

You will run into the same thing with horse's and anything else were people compete for status and money.

It looks like the dogs you linked to don't have papers at all and they do have some training behind them so the price isn't outrageous.  Paperwork sometimes gets screwed up or lost and dogs just can't be registered. 

I'll sell my pups on full registration IF it's to someone that is very serious about titling and has knowledge of what they are doing.  I sell the rest on limited registration and will lift that if the dog OFA's and has at least a BH.  I want to know that they are doing something with the dog and it's just not sitting out back.  With one litter a year, it's hardly about the money involved but I don't want to see my kennel name on a dog on posted on Craigslist or Petfinder either.

Perhaps your kennel name equates pride and status, yet you cant leave out the financial aspects that come along with that status.    I didnt mean to sound so hateful Mi GSD.     But I've been around animals my whole life and the breeders and owners.    Its mine, I worked hard to get it, its the best, and you will just have to do what I did.    Its the same with any top breeder, trainer, owner, of any animal, hell even chickens..

I understand it from your view point.   I guess andy needs to understand it now.

it's really pretty easy. 

If a breeder has puppies you think will be what you are looking for you contact them.

You talk with them and find out you really want one, but they were advertised as not having breeding rights.  That may be to keep people from puppy mills or those trying to make a quick buck by breeding "German Bred" GSD's in the newspaper.  There may be stipulations that if you get their health clearances checked and titled and breed surveyed, the restriction is lifted and you can then breed your dog.

Some may say, NEVER, you'll never get breeding rights by them, then it is your right to take your business elsewhere.  It doesn't really matter what their reason is at that point, so why should it matter now?

MI, the breeder doesnt say they dont have papers, and this is something I have come across alot. Both male and female have papers, but they wont give full registeration, no exception.

Maybe they just aren't breeding quality and should be spayed and neutered.  That's why the price is low.

i endorse all my pups and only lift it when pups are health tested

do you have endorsments in the us?

All you have to do is look at all the people coming on here (and some styaing on here) who are nothing but BYBs. They think they are judges of what is breedworthy even if they have no clue what the breed should even be! 

I know of breeders who say no exceptions but will make exceptions you're not aware of to known quality breeders.

Aren't there enough puppies out there?  If I were a breeder (and I never will be) I wouldn't sell with breeding rights because I would want some sort of say in how many puppies came after mine.  I have never seen a 400 dollar puppy in the newspaper advertised with limited breeding rights. Maybe there's a reason for that.