Does anybody know about this dog food? - Page 1

Hi i have a female gsd who is very picky about what she eats. I have provided her with all the dog foods that are available in my country. She hated happy dog, royal canin and purina puppy chow. One day i decided to go to a supermarket to search for different dog foods. I found a very interesting one. its called 'Purina Bakers complete gravy bites 2 in 1.' It can be given to your dog in dry or gravy form. Very excited, i came back home and gave her the new dog food and to my surprise she loved it! Its beef and country vegetables.

INGREDIENTS:

Cereals,Meat and animal derivatives(minimum 4% fresh meat in the soft mist kernel,minimum 4% beef in the red and brown kernel),Vegetable protein extracts, Oils and fats, Derivatives of vegetable origin, Various sugars, Minerals, Vegetables(minimum 4% vegetables in the green and orange kernels).

TYPICAL ANALYSIS

Protien=23%, Fat=11%, Ash=6.5%, Fibre 3%, Calcium=1.3%, Vitamin A 12,000 IU/Kg, Vitamin D3=800 IU/Kg, Vitamin E= 60mg/kg, Copper (as copper sulphate)= 17mg/kg, Iron (as iron sulphate)= 18mg/kg.

This food is the equivalent of eating McDonalds as a regular diet. You would not do that either. Or let your kids eat like that every day. They will like McDonalds better than broccoli of course, but you will make them eat the broccoli nonetheless, at least one should hope so...

First ingredient: cerials - not defined, so you do not know what cerials (which grains and of what quality)
next is meat - no defined meat source, should be specific, ie chicken, beef, pork, etc, so you don't know which types of meat and what quality
and animal derivatives - what exactly was 'derived' from the animals used that needed to be put into the food and could not really be defined? (we already don't know which animals were used)
vegetable protein extracts - no defined source, what vegetables were used? soy? protein from rice or corn? protein source should be from meat, not mainly vegetable protein
oils and fats - again, no defined source, no indication of quality of oils, cotton seed oil? soy oil? recycled oil (not kidding, recycled from food industry)?
and what exactly are derivatives of vegetable origin supposed to be? peanut hulls? corn stalks?
VARIOUS SUGARS! yes, your defintely dog needs those (not) (sugars will cause an insulin response which will make your dog dependent on this food. Meaning that it will start to refuse other foods that will not give it the sugar high it gets from this food, followed by the sugar low, which means the dog is always hungry, and only for this food)

actually THE worst dog food label I have ever seen.

Your dog is a picky eater because you let her. Appetite is obviously not a problem, you know that now that she loves this food. So she gets away with being picky. That is all. Put her back on the foods you have tried before. She will not starve herself to death. But death will come sooner with this new food. Do yourself and her the favor, stop feeding this stuff. And don't get suckered in with the veggie claim. 4% veggie matter in two types of the colourful kernels. That means you take 100 grains of rice and replace 4 of them with a quarter of a pea (quarter of a pea being about the size of a kernel of rice). They forgot to mention the food colouring of course that makes these kernels so colourful, and God only knows what else. 4% of peas or carrots will not make kernels green and orange!

this was quite a shocker!!! thanks for the advise!!!

My girl was also a very picky eater, I would try tough love, leaving the food in front of her for 20 minutes twice a day, no deal. She would wag her tail at the site of her dish, then sniff the food & look at me like, "You're kidding?", then she would give a big sigh, lay down, and turn her head away from the dish until I picked it up & took it away. This would go on for days. I then discovered Orijen. She has never turned her nose up at that. We also feed raw, and she loves that, too. And she looks so good! It is, however, sometimes hard to find...I use Wellness Core as a back-up for when I can't find the Orijen, it has almost identical ingredients as the Orijen, and the dogs love it. BTW- both are grain-free. jh

First of all can someone tell me about "Orijen"...I have now heard of this food...but how makes it and where do you get it...I've never seen it on the market...

I agree with the "tough love" type of thing...I feed all my dogs 2 times a day...and if they come here as picky eaters they don't stay that way for very long...My rule of thumb is...I put the food down for them and if it's not eaten in 10 minutes then I pick it up for that feeding...and they are fed again at the next feeding time...

I don't feed any dry kibble with beef in it any more...I only use a chicken based food...or one with a mixture of chicken and lamb...I also give them some pieces of "raw chicken" usually once or twice a week....Sometime I will add in some veggie...like carrots or beans...or something like that...I have never had a dog refuse the "raw chicken"...unless they're on their last leg...

AristianM...You never mentioned how old your dog was or when you got her...How long have you been trying to get her to eat the food you want?...

I train other people's dogs for them...and they bring them and leave them here for training...Almost without exception when they come here they are very picky eaters...and usually overweight...when they leave they are in much better shape and are now good eaters....I hope some of this helps you out...

~Bob~

Bob

       Welcome to the Orijen club more and more of us are finding out about this really great kibble.   Their web site is  www.championpetfoods.com.

Orijen is a Canadian company that has been in buisiness since 1975 it is family owned and actually manufactures their own dog food very rare today.    Take a look at the ingrediants they get fresh meat from local farmers every day they will actually give you the names of the farms they deal with also use fish caught in fresh water Canadian lakes for their fish formula.   The food is manufactured under a very low temperature to keep the texture of the ingrediants.    They also do their own quality control and have an independant company check it.

But the proof of the putting is how your dog likes it and how well he is doing on it.   Every one I have told about Orijen raves about it.  Do some homework then make your own choice.

oh sorry i forgot to mention how old she is. she is eight and half months old. i got her when she was 2 months old. i want her to eat a dog food that is good for her.

If Orijen is not available in your locale, check out this site: http://www.k9cuisine.com/default.aspx

Yes, some foods are pricey: however, there are no shipping charges for orders over $50.00.

When I first got my bitch I a few months ago I was concerned because she was not eating.  I tried everything to get her to eat the kibble and she just refused.  I was so worried after the 3rd day that my husband and I began cooking for her just so she'd eat something. lol  I soon took the adivce of the "tough love" theory from other's as I did not feel like becoming the dogs personal chef for the next several years.  What I started to do was trick her so to speak...lol  I'd put very small peices of meat in her kibble, even burying it on the bottom to make her eat at least some kibble to get to the good stuff.  I began putting less and less meats in the kibble until finally she accepted that that was what she was getting. 

A suggestion; if she likes that kibble you got that's not really good for her you may want to mix it in with a better brand of kibble and start feeding less and less of the "McDonalds" brand. lol  Hopefully she will acquire a taste for the healthier one.