3-3 on VA1 Rikkor von Bad-Boll? Strengths, weaknesses or concerns - Page 1

Hello.  I have seen a breeding based on that and was wondering if someone with knowledge about Rikkor could give some info on that topic.  Thanks very much!

PM's welcome too.  Thanks for the one received already!

I have bred to Rikkor multiple times in different combinations and from dogs/bitches carrying Rikkor 3-3. The advantages are correct size, very correct front lines, balanced angulations, correct front and rear angulation. Good pigmentation in the majority. The negatives are sometimes slightly squarish dogs, a tendency towards short underbreast and possibly slightly short croups.

you may also see high working drives, a little more harder dog, and maybe a little stubbornness, thats at least what I have seen a few times from dogs linebred close on Rikkor

The high hip score would concern me.  Rikkor produces good working temperament.

Do you like GSDs with steep croups and rump roll-up gaiting?  Did you ever see R. going away?  Is it like one person stated, "pencil legs".   Super thin, flat rear leg bones? 

Why do the top West German breeders habitually breed 4-5 or 5-5 breedings?  What do these breeding experts know that others don't. Seems to produce the most consistent type they prefer off that targeted sire-line.  And many believe this is still too close, producing too many recessive health problems and culls in each litter. To breed more distantly if done correctly (type to type with producing animals) could produce more vitality and hhealth, but probably less consistent type and not as many superstars.

I have a Rikkor daughter, awesome temperment, but not for a novice, sadly OFA moderate dyplasia. Her brother was PTS quite young for very bad elbows, also.

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Great grandfather to Chaos!  Hmm,  he must carry the long coat gene! 

Its more of COPYING a proven formula.... It will just be in vain if you don't analyse the individual dogs themselves... Try to look for things that could improve the other in retrospect... The Rickor-line is known for its color, medium-size and balance...   In-a-nutshell i would line-breed with him closely if i notice that my dogs are become LARGE...Poorly Pigmented... and the most important BALANCE...  Temperament-wise,  i hope its true about the added drive... Staying away from Odin T... and Quando A. lines that are known for  "belasbarkeit" or being LAZY...  Another mentioned set-back will be STUBORN NESS... You would probably need a very-good trainer, or just have a dog for the shows and not for PERFORMANCE... 

Ms. Shepherdwoman... I think CHAOS got his LC from VISUM... need to get more of the smaller-type... Spitz-type workinglines  to correct his feature... phenotypically Chaos has the bone and structure of a good working dog... just have the LC gene as a set-back...

Shepherd woman- half my Rikkor daughter's litter were longcoats, mom was a Neptun daughter.