advice on a good kibble - Page 1

Hey my friend just got a new puppy and the breeder wants her on all three feedings use pro plan puppy,with cooked grd beef 1tlb and cosequin 1 daily  She wants to switch to a natural kibble for the pup but her vet wants her to not switch yet and stop the cooked grd beef and just do kibble with water to moisten and the cosequin.

Any suggestions

does purina even make a kibble that doesn't have corn in it?  i was looking at some of the newer formulas the other day and they all have corn in them.  its been 20 yrs or more since we fed any purina products so i don't really keep up on them, but they would not be my first choice in kibble food.

pjp

Two good choices for kibble...

http://www.championpetfoods.com/orijen/orijen/

http://www.naturapet.com/brands/evo.asp

I followed my Vets advice and used Purina Pro Plan and my GSD died from cancer.      I now use Orijen kibble and raw ground beef.    Raw is much better than cooked for a dog.

The only Purina Brand food with no corn is Purina Pro Plan Selects Natural Salmon and Brown Rice Formula it is the ONLY varity/ Flavor even in the Selects that is corn free.

Ingredients:

             Salmon, brown rice, fish meal (natural source of glucosamine), oat meal, canola meal, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), pearled barley, dried egg product, brewers dried yeast, natural flavor, potassium chloride, salt, dried sweet potatoes, blueberry pomace, dried tomatoes, Vitamin E supplement, zinc proteinate, salt, choline chloride, manganese proteinate, ferrous sulfate, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), niacin, copper proteinate, calcium carbonate, Vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, garlic oil, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, calcium iodate, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), sodium selenite .

Vom Mystecial:    It has a synethic chemical   Menadione sodium bisulfite complex     a nasty chemical that is not used by better dog foods....it is a chemical and not ever passed by the FDA for human consumption and studies show it is not a good chemical     I wont use and our club stopped several foods including Exceed =made by purina dog food....for that reason

Why put a chemical that you dont need in your dogs liver ..it is also being put by some in feed......a tricky way of a perservative..not needed..

Yellowrose 

I have always wondered what caused my GSD's to get cancer.  I know it related to the food I was feeding them.

Your answer sheds some light on it         Thank You

Hi Dee, I feed Fromm holistic to both of My shepherds a 16mo and a 5mo old, it has no corn in it I have been feeding it for a year now, and have seen nothing but positive from it. I believe in dog food like most other things you get what you pay for. My days of store bought dog food is  a faint memory, I want my dogs to have the quality of food that I would want and not just something to fill me or them up. You may want to check out Direct Food. com they have several brands of Holistic foods which most I have tried but Fromms works the best for me.  Everyone is always commenting including my Vet as how glossy and fit my dogs look. The people in my Schutzhund club are always asking me what I feed . They ask me what I pay for it and I always tell me that I am crazy that they would never pay over 25.00 for a bag of dog food. And at the same time there dogs are fat, dull coats and train for 10 min tops before there wore out, and mine keep going,going like the Duracell bunny.             Just my 2 cents worth     Greg

I don't like Pro Plan myself.  My pup was on it when I got him but that was the breeders choice not mine.  I slowly switched him over to solid gold puppy and saw a huge difference in no time.  He put on some weight, and his coat was just so shiny.  I've kept him on it and even switched my older dogs.  I never knew how much red was in my bitches coat until I changed her food.  Less poopies in the yard too, which is a big plus!

Larrydee:  Even though my Zorba lived to the ripe old age of over 14 years, he got bone cancer shortly after his 11th birthday.  He had to have his leg amputated & subsequent chemo, and I was very lucky he lived the additional years.  My GSD previous to him was also fed a high quality kibble and also contracted cancer - albeit a different type.

I am convinced that even though I did feed a high quality kibble, it still played a part in my dog getting cancer.  I have had my new dog on RAW from day 1, and he came from a kennel that also feeds RAW. 

I know cancer and disease is a lot more complex an issue than just what we feed our dogs, but I think what we feed is a big part of it, and it is a part that is within my control.  My veterinarian oncologist  is feeding RAW to her dogs and recommending it to her clients.

On a side note, this same dog had to have a hip replacement on the other leg at the age of 10.  At that time we actually thought about amputating that leg instead - thank goodness we didn't.