Korung? - Page 1

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Could somebody please explain to me what korung means?

And also when does the final colouring of a puppy come becuase my puppy has some gray areas but so did my other dog and his turned gold. And when are hip x-rays final because I took my 12 month old male and my vet said it was ok. Just wanted to know at what age could I get them scored.

And one other thing, I was just wondering, has anyone ever bought a VA dog?(Just curious)

A Körung is an event where breed survey/s are done. In order for a dog to try for a breed survey, it must minimally hold either a SchH 1 or an HGH title. It must also have completed the AD, the Ausdauerprüfung (a 12 mile endurance test) and have received at least a "G" (meaning Gut, in English "good") or better in a conformation show, and have hips and elbows cleared by one of the organizations that does this (the SV a stamp program, OFA in the US, and others in each country). When a dog passes a breed survey, which begins with a proscribed protection routine that it must pass first, then the Körmeister (a special certification held by only a few people) will use a specified form to fill out describing the dog. This report is known as a Kör report and you can find one by looking at this site under certain dogs. Here is an example in German:

"Übermittelgroß,mittelkräftig,sehr gutes Gepräge.Normaler Wiederrist,fester Rücken,kurze Kruppe,gute Winkelungen,gerade Front.Richtige Brustverhältnisse,vorne erg.hinten geradetretend mit guterSchrittweite,Ellenbogen müssen geschlosener sein.Sicheres Wesen,TSB ausgeprägt:läßt ab."

Not all GSDs have participated in a Körung, and just because one participates does not mean the dog will pass. If the dog fails the protection routine (*consisting of attack on handler out of the blind and the courage test, sometimes called the long bite), then the dog is immediately dismissed and must wait one year I think to try again. Once a dog has completed two breed surveys in the proper time frame, it is given the LEBENZEIT designation, meaning it need not ever do a breed survey again. 

Two classifications may be awarded by the Körmeister when he/she performs this inspection. One is called KKL1 and the other KKL2. This abbreviation stands for Kör Klasse 1 or 2. Dogs awarded KKL1 are "recommended" for breeding, and dogs given the KKL2 designation are "suitable" for breeding. Often the difference between getting a KKL1 vs KKL2 is based on some minor fault, such as in dentition, or structure. Sometimes it is based on some other factor, including conformation that is not quite correct, and yes, I suppose there are judges who, for example, simply will not give a KKL1 to a dog coming from working lines, but I have not had this experience.

The coat of your pup will change with time until he is several years older, but in general, what you see by a year old is what you will end up with.

If you are in the US, x-rays may be submitted to the OFA for preliminary readings as early as 4 months old. Permanent ratings are not given until x-rays are submitted at or after 2 years of age. in Germany, the "a"  stamp may be applied for as early as one year, and in some other European countries this is also the case. So whether one can get a certification at one year of age depends on what country you are in or what certifying organization you use. One can, for example, submit x-rays to the SV in Germany even though one lives in the US.

I hope this answers your question.

Thanks a lot for the help,

so If I want to send the hips to be scored in Germany, (because nobody can do that where i live) I can submit x-rays to the SV from when the dog is one year and these aren't considered preliminary but are considered 'final'. And where do I have to send the x-ray to and do you know roughly how much they charge?

Thanks again.

 Henry,

What country do you live in? If you want to send to the SV, you can, but there are a lot of requirements you must be certain to follow. Yes, a one year or older x-ray in Germany is considered "Final" unless there is a reason to repeat it. This is true also in the U.S. In some instances, perhaps an x-ray was not taken with the best positioning, or the female was in or near an estrus, or some other reason existed to question the rating. I have x-rayed hundreds of dogs and not found OFA to err very often or very far from the final rating received by another organization. I do not know what the charge is for the SV to rate the x-ray, but someone here will know. If you send them through one of the American organizations, it will cost more.