I am the girlfriend of the man who started this - Page 1

I am the girlfriend of the man who started this line of messaging. I felt it necessary to clear up a few items that others have brought up. I am a CERTIFIED VETERINARY TECHNICIAN so contrary to popular belief I do have an inkling of what I am talking about. 1st of all septicemia can take anywhere from hours to MONTHS to develop. The idea behind this is that if a dog has no immune system it will take siginificantly less time for bacteria to overwhelm the body versus a dog that has a slightly functioning immune system. No, we did not parade our puppy anywhere and everywhere. His paws did not set foot anywhere near a PetSmart and only associated with dogs that I personally knew were up to date on their vaccines. (i.e. animals that I had vaccinated myself) He never went to the dog park nor would he ever since I think dog parks are just one huge bloody dog battle waiting to happen. I've treated far too many of the losers of dog park disagreements. Secondly, we never, ever, ever thought of our dog as "merchandise" or "property." He was a loving member of our family. In the eyes of the law, however, companion animals are seen as property. As a vet tech I'm not much for breeding as I am far too aware of the local county shelter euthanasia rates. Yes it was our decsion to have a necropsy performed and our responsibility to pay it (and it has been paid for by the way) but if you had a seemingly healthy puppy in your home and you find it dead one morning, ask yourself this: Wouldn't you want to know what the hell went wrong??? And, in regards to the compency of the vet I worked for, both of them are diplomates in canine and feline medicine. Several years of extra education, a behemouth of an exam for the privlege of saying you're a diplomate and both of them say that hydrocephelus, menengitis and encephelitis are commonly asymptomatic. Meaning: THEY DON'T HAVE SYMPTOMS! So I personally take insult to that little jab about how we should have known something was wrong. This is what I do for a freaking living. Wayne Curry goes into my personal jackass hall of fame. When I called to speak to Mr. Curry about the necropsy the girl didn't hit the hold button where she says, "Mr.Curry, it's that woman again." To which he replied, "Which one?" "Oh yeah that one, the vet one who says you sold her boyfriend a sick puppy." "Oh her. Get rid of her." "Well, Mr. Curry, she's very insistent that she speak with you." The esteemed Mr. Curry then said this: "Like I give a sh*t. I gotta business to run. Tell her I'm at lunch and would very much like to speak with her, blah, blah, blah. Just get her off my phone lines." "Yes, Mr. Curry." I tried to tell the girl that I knew he was there but she kept talking over me saying "We have nothing to say to you." This was the same response that I received on subsequent attempts to reach him before I discovered my phone number was blocked. They didn't seem to have a problem speaking to my boyfriend, assumably because he is far less educated than I on veterinary matters. We are taking this matter to small claims court in Thurston County since in my boyfriend's contractual agreement it states we have to go to court there. I don't think my giving my name out either lends or detracts from my credibility. My personal stake in this matter is not to see how much dust I can stir up but just to inform people just the kind of man is running that facility. Any small-time breeder would call into question his ethics on how many litters are produced. It is quite obvious in my mine that he is only concerned with quantity not quality. Anyone who has been around a woman who has recently given birth can testify how stressful that is on the body. In terms of dogs think anywhere from 2-10 neonates up to twice a year! At that rate you cannot possibly expect those infants to be healthy. Before forming opinions about us or our motives try

 Many of us have already wondered why you went to this breeder in the first place. As noted, he has been a subject of this kind of posting, meaning negative, over and over on this site alone. And yes, there are a few who have had positive experiences.

If you have good evidence, hopefully you will prevail in court. I still say it will be a difficult journey but good luck. All of us are sad this happened.

Wow. Nice way to run a business.

SS

This was my boyfriend's dream. I have a serious love/hate relationship with breeders to begin with. He did the research, he paid for it. I'm just dealing with the aftermath. I am grateful that at least someone has had a good experience with this man. The breeder community would be in VERY sorry shape if experiences like ours were commonplace. It's pretty sad when they don't want to reach an agreement or understanding with us that they feel compelled to block my number. Honestly, it wasn't like I called every 20 minutes. After hearing the above mentioned exchange while trying to get ahold of the esteemed Mr. Curry. The employee point-blank lied to me even after I told her I had just heard the whole thing! I was slightly more than a little upset to hear that my phone call meant so little. I just don't think that the breeder/owner relationship stops once money exchanges hands. Reputable breeders would be very interested in hearing if something was wrong with one of their pups and would do everything in their power to correct the problem or at least remove the dam and/or sire from the breeding program. I feel that Mr. Curry's breeding goals are to pop out as many puppies as caninely possible. I don't think he is trying to improve upon the breed or even cares about the breed besides the fact that GSDs are his bread and butter.

I'm really speachless at all of this.  It just blows my mind totally.

I'm very sorry that you are having go through this.  I know that this may have been mentioned, but how long ago did this happen?

Several people in the other thread have asked you to post the Oregon path report, yet nothing, I spent about 7 days at the kennel, before I purchased my puppy, 3 of those visits unannounced, I watch Wayne work with his adults and met his entire staff, watched his puppy trainer work with all the puppies.  I can say I did not see anything that would make me feel uneasy. 

My wife was a vet tech for years, and has an ADS degree from Auburn, and is now an RN, seems to agree with your dissenters.  A puppy sold to you immuno-deficient would have died in a matter of days if not hours with any kind of deadly staff, only a few minutes of research and speaking to a few different vets come to the same conclusion,  did you get an initial vet assessment when you took the puppy home, what did that vet say?  Things here do not pass the stinky test, you still have never corrected your timeline how long did you have your pup, and its hard to believe that you did not notice any weight loss, hematuria, or any other sign of the animal being septic if the animal was sick for several weeks.

Additionally, I never heard anyone there call Wayne Mr Curry, everyone including the admin staff called him Wayne.  If the path report is so powerful please post it for all to see the truth.

Working somewhere and simply visiting are totally different. Ask previous employees their opinions, they know what really goes on.

Does the term disgruntled employee come to mind, if they really had proof, wouldnt they have gone to the authorities?

MRSA is a form of staph that is absolutely deadly.  It kills human adults with perfectly functioning immune systems.  This is a bacteria that has eveolved to be resistant to the immune system and to antibiotics.  MRSA threatens human health greater than AIDS.  It's epidemic.  I posted a link to CDCs website about this.  MRSA has been in many publications touted as a super bug...seen in Reader's Digest and the local news.  A little research about this and you all are going to realize no breeder has responisibility if a pup is lost to this disease.  A bacteria capable of attacking the dog leading to encephalitis and menengitis is NOTHING that was present several weeks earlier when the dog was in the care of the breeder.

As a vet tech, some extra time chatting with your veterinarian collegues is in order.  It will save you time and money dragging this thing to court.  You may want to try to get in to a local college for a Pathogenic Microbiology class.  You need a refresher.

If the kennel was so bad, why buy from them to start with?!  I'm sorry about the pup, but this is noone's fault and could not be avoided.  It sucks that money was spent, emotions invested and now you have nothing.  Whining about the breeder and talking about court is the wrong thing, won't fill your pockets with cash and will not bring the pup back. 

Sue-Ann

Sun-Ann Yes she def is not a biology study, and having to deal with MRSA on a daily basis for many years, I agree it is much more deadly and scary then HIV, the only thing that compares is HEP C.  If the dog was immuno-comped, do you not agree MRSA would have killed the animal in days if not hours, and many outward signs such as parvo-like symptoms would have appreared.