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by tezz on 13 January 2008 - 01:01
Silbersee you said:
Did anybody ever tell you that a puppy's immune system is down for about 3 to 4 weeks after receiving a shot? During this time, he is especially susceptible to anything.
Wow, I didn’t know that! Good info and thank you. Pays to visit the boards :)
Penny

by yellowrose of Texas on 13 January 2008 - 01:01
yES pENNY AND ANOTHER THING A LOT OF PEOPLE FORGET,,,,,A PUP HAS TO HAVE AT LEAST 7 DAYS FROM THE DAY HE GETS HIS SHOT ,BEFORE THAT SHOT HAS ANY EFFECT ON HIS SYSTEM....SO MANY PEOPLE BUY A PUP FROM A BREEDER OR A PLACE,,,AND DONT ASK ,,,WHEN DID MY PUP GET HIS FIRST SHOT....????????
AND ONE SHOT IS NOT THE PROTECTION AND IF YOU DONT GIVE SHOTS UNTIL A LATER AGE,,,THEN HOME TO A SAFE CLEAN ,ENVIRONMENTALLY PURE HOME ,,,UNTILL THE DOG HAS MATURED......

by CMathis on 13 January 2008 - 01:01
What people also often forget is that the shots are usually started before the maternal antibodies are worn off. The vaccine manufacturers also put agents in the vaccine to override any remaining maternal antibodies they even advertise this. So when you vaccinate a 7 week old puppy you might wipe out the maternal antibodies and depress the immune system at the same time. In my opinion this is why so many vaccinated puppies come down with parvo.
Cheryl
by tezz on 13 January 2008 - 01:01
Thanks Yellowrose. So much good info here. Will be sure to add that to my list of questions.
Penny

by yellowrose of Texas on 13 January 2008 - 01:01
Yes Cheryl, and people run take puppy everywhere because they either dont know any better,or they dont believe or they are just plain irresponsible,,,,
by hodie on 13 January 2008 - 02:01
There is a lot of incorrect information on this board.
Probably no one cares, but in case anyone does, vaccination does NOT knock out the immune system. In fact, making such a statement suggests one does not have the slightest idea about how the immune system actually works. Vaccinations, and exposure to foreign matter, be it through vaccines, bacterial or fungal or viral infection, for examples, ACTIVATES and stimulates the immune system to mount a response. If anyone cares to really understand this, I will be happy to direct you to sources that will help make this clear or be happy to explain it.
If one is against vaccination, that is one thing. But what is so astonishing to me is that people spout off incorrect information over and over and over and so many buy it without so much as a blink of an eye. If one is going to make a statement, at least understand the facts.
No wonder so many people cannot get past a few minutes on the program "Are you smarter than a Fifth Grader?"

by yellowrose of Texas on 13 January 2008 - 02:01
i DIDNT IPLY THAT THE SHOT SHUT OUT THE IMMUNE SYSTEM I SAID YOU CANT EXPECT TO DRAG A PUT THRU PUVLIC WITHOUT KNOWING WHEN IT HAD ITS SHOTS....
'AND HAVING ONE SHOT IS NOT ENOUGH PROTECTION FOR A BABY 8 WEEK OLD PUT TO BE DRUG INTO THE PUBLIC OR OUT AWAY FROM ITS SAFE PURE ,CLEAN ENVIRONMENT.......
EVERY BREEDER ON THIS BASE, TELLS ALL CUSTOMERS,, PUP MUST HAVE AT LEAST THREE AND FOUR SHOTS BEFORE IT IS READY TO GO CAMPING..OR TO TOWN.............IF YOU BUY A PUP DO YOUR RESEARCH ON THE DOG SITES AND LEARN HOW SHOTS WORK AND LEARN HOW TO CARE FOR YOUR PUP......

by sueincc on 13 January 2008 - 02:01
Thanks Hodie, If you don't mind I would appreciate those links regarding vaccinations. I am leaning towards titering every three years instead of automatically vaccinating every three years, but have heard some confusing info regarding titer results too. Any info you feel like giving or links you provide will be greatly appreciated.
by Preston on 13 January 2008 - 03:01
Not all vaccinations work on every dog. That is why some vets now recommend titres to be drawn every few years. Parvo immunity is a tough prospect since there are a number of different strains, with a new one coming in from europe (this type was first identified by Italian Vets). Bordatella viruses apparently occur in a number of strains and can mutate. That coupled with the apparent short acting immunity provided by the intranasally administered vaccine, makes revaccination every 3-6 months probably necessary and even then may not prevent subclinical or mild illness, but perhaps will weaken the virus's multiplication, thereby preventing serious illness or complications such as pneumonia. I know one experienced, reputable breeder that only gives bordatella vaccine when one of his GSDs starts sneezing. He claims that administering the vaccine even at this point tends to stop it in that dog and prevents its spread.
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