Fero Question - Page 1

I wanted to know exactly what Fero brought to the table and what he took away?  Another question I have is how many originals sons and daughters are there left out of Fero?  Granddaughters and grandsons?  If you are a Fero " lover"  and you saw a breeding out of one of his sons/daughters/grandsons/grandaughters with a compatiable mate would it be something you would really look at--as in interest of obtaining.  I am very interested in Fero and what was so great about him so any serious replies are appreciated.  Thanks.............

i too am interesting in hearing the response to this question.   my wife owned a fero grandson, unfortunately he left us way too young.  he was a very nice dog, with tons of personality.  some of our other dogs have fero in the pedigree, but most of what you see anymore is in the fourth or fifth generation.

john

Good Things: The Fero had intense civil drive that was over the lunatic fringe. He was an absolute nut case and a joy to watch make work.

Bad Things: Many criticise the Fero for producing light bone, and less than acceptable hip production quality. I understand that he produced a few progeny that were too sharp. But we know that as much as 50% of that solution rests with the dam! He was perhaps the most overused stud dog of his time and has caused a bottleneck (among working-line dogs) that is hard to dodge so as not to breed too much of him into any dog.

Me? I own one (1) of his grandaughters, and she is the most intelligent bitch I have ever owned. I shared my memory and the conversations from the years, and I too want to see what is added to this thread.

Regards,

Bob-O

I used to own a Fero son.  He left me 2 years ago January 17th.  He had OFA excellent hips, but left me due to liver cancer.  He was a very nice drivey dog with excellent conformation.  Nice bone and a great head! 

I will always miss him! 

Vickie

www.PowerHausKennels.com

I owned a Fero grandson. Sg Bully vom Goldnen Paradies SchH3, FH2 Kkl I OFA Good He was one of the best all around dogs I have evr had or seen.  Produced great hips and temperment.

www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/39662.html

I miss him. Passed 1 1/2 years ago in his sleep.

I owned three Fero daughters (Xinerobella v Tiekerhook Schh3,KKl-2, Cimba v Haus Nepputh Schh1,KKl-2, Glarbo Yoyo BHP3,KKl-2), one Fero son (V-Bodo v Tiekerhook Schh3,KKl-1).  Cimba and Yoyo are still alive and healthy/active.   Health, longevity and good hips were had by all.  Excellent drives, very strong/dominant temperaments, solid nerves, good to very good conformation/structure and bone.  Medium/large size, not "heavy boned" like DDR but they are not DDR lines.  one female, my foundation female Xinerobella, was very heavy boned and masculine, the other two females strong-looking (and working) but more feminine especially in the head.  All produced the same - very good structure/bone, health, good hips and high drives with stable nerve.  Most of "my Fero lines" come through daughters of Fero, none through the most popular Fero sons such as Troll and Timmy bosen Nachbarschaft, and Yoschy lines.  Which may have something to do with my very positive "Fero experience" but maybe not - I am definately a "Fero Fan" via my very strong female lines.

I found Bob O's post interesting - I had always heard that Fero was known as a good hip producer. 

molly

Thanks for all the replies so far.  I know someone who has a black Fero granddaughter--she was supposed to be mine as a puppy but things got crazy and she is still where she was born.  I am just trying to find out more--especially since I have learned a lot more about working dogs--before I take the plunge.  She is 6 and OFA Good.

Don, your Fero grandson Sg Bully vom Golden Paradies SchH3, FH2 Kkl I OFA Good, was one good looking GSD.  He looks showline more than working line.  The dog exudes type and masculine traits.   

 I used to have a fero grandson (linebred 2-5 on Fero in fact). I sold him last year, too much dog for my household. A happy go lucky guy in a lot of ways but also possessive and I had my 80 year old grandmother move in with us who does not understand why you should not reach your fingers into crates...made me too nervous and I sold him. He was a dog that would go nuts on the field....had very solid obedience, he knew what everything meant...during protection there was a lot of hectic prey screaming going on unless you calmed him a bit he would be all over the place. There was definitely a serious edge to him if he didn't want to be messed with, something I didn't want to deal with. His brother is still around here, a client of mine is using him as a family protection dog. Still intact btw, though he is not titled, his owner isn't into sport. Both those grandsons were prelimmed at 6 months and were fine. My old one had pano but right before I sold him at just about 2 years of age I xrayed again and hips were still fine. They're about a little over 3 years old right now (their father if I remember right was close to 10 or so I believe when bred and has since passed). The son that has stayed here local is a nice boy. Excellent personal protection, great with his kids and family, but strong in his work. Nice obedience with a clear head. Pedigree can be seen: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/407246.html  they come down through two different fero sons....

My own boy wasn't a huge dog, though he looked more like his mother then anything. The boy that's left isn't tiny but not huge either. He's very solid though (the guy runs him like several miles a day, which may be why he's mellow with the family:-))

Just my experience:-) 

Thanks Preston,

                         If you take a look at the bottom half, he went back to "show lines" I saw Cliff his other grandfather after Randy Witmer-Tyson's kennel(N. Calif.) got him. He was also one of the reasons I beleive that Bully was such a well rounded working dog.  Köermeister Rudiger Mai, in his LBZ breed survey , noted his "energetic protection work" and he was quick to out on command.  Short comings= short upper arm, flat whithers,steep croup. He passed on another problem...sometimes a weak ear. Better female progeny than males. I was pleased to see Brix v. Laimbactal in his pedigree bringing in Boris v. Trogenbach.  I remember seeing Brix in Dog World magazine before I knew what end of the leash that a dog went on.  I think Shelly Strohl had him(Brix).