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rockinrkranch

by rockinrkranch on 22 December 2007 - 01:12

I had a litter born today, six puppies so far, with more to come...my concern is, several of the puppies have white markings on their toe tips, and some also with small white spots on their chest. This is the bitches first litter, but the sire has had many litters, never producing any white markings, other than very, very seldom a small with spot on the chest. Does anyone have experience with white toe tips? Do you know if it comes from the bitch, sire, or both? Should I not breed this bitch again? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

by Nala07 on 22 December 2007 - 01:12

I bought a black and tan puppy with a white foot. My primary interest was in workability to I took her without regard. Neither parent had produced a dog with poor pigment or noticable white that I am aware of. She is now nearly a year and she has one white toe nail. Best of luck with your puppies!

animules

by animules on 22 December 2007 - 01:12

Sometimes they look white when first born but darken as they get older. I wouldn't worry too much yet about little toe tips of white yet, nor little spots of white on their chests.

Ehrenwald

by Ehrenwald on 22 December 2007 - 01:12

More than likely the white will fade as they progress. Is there a line on the breeding? I own several bitches with some older lines that have had pups with white toes and some with white spot on the chest. They all faded. I currently have a litter line bred on Matty Wienerau. Matty's mom VA5 Xandra Wienerau has white paws and Matty's grandfather VA6 Odin Tannenmeise, his mom has white paws. Obviously, not so long ago in the 1980's this was good enough for V and VA ratings. If she is producing nice pups and is achieving what you are trying to accomplish in your breeding goals, why get rid of her? Just my opinion but many want a Batu(black&red) and have forgone some of the traditional lines.

rockinrkranch

by rockinrkranch on 22 December 2007 - 01:12

Puppy #7 was born a few minutes ago and one of his feet is almost totally white...can that be normal?

rockinrkranch

by rockinrkranch on 22 December 2007 - 01:12

She is working line bred, as is the sire of the litter, mainly DDR and Czech. This is her first litter and working ability is my top priority, but at the same time, I want opinions from other breeders on how much emphasis should be put on not producing white markings. I've heard that some people will not breed a dog with white markings...just asking for opinions. Thanks for all the input.

greatestgsd

by greatestgsd on 22 December 2007 - 02:12

most of the time, the white will fad as the puppy grows.

greatestgsd

by greatestgsd on 22 December 2007 - 02:12

most of the time, the white will fad as the puppy grows.

Q Man

by Q Man on 22 December 2007 - 02:12

Rockinrkranch...If they have white on their toes...and you don't like it...then I'd put them back where they came from...I mean maybe it'll change the next time they come out...

VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 22 December 2007 - 02:12

It CAN fade, but does not always. However, I would not stress yourself out. While the white amrks are not desirable, correct structure and workability should take precedence if you ask me. Just research pigment in the parents' lines, try to figure out where it came from, and try a different stud next time. No sense at all in getting rid of your bitch. My favorite puppy from my last litter had a quite a bit of white on her toes and a spot on her chest, as did 2 other siblings. She was the only one that didn't grow out of it, but her nails are black, her structure is very nice and she has a great temperament. I've seen really quite a bit of white marks in west german dogs, but never in working line dogs. I'd be very interested hearing the results of any research you do on that or any experience others can give.





 


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