Do we have a good dog? - Page 1

As you can tell by the name, we're new to this. Imagine my surprise when I logged on and there's our female's pop, Andrjuscha van Noort! I grabbed her pedigree paperwork and yep, there he is. Her mom is Unna vom Wiesenring and I was wondering if anyone can tell me what we have here? Our pup (1 1/2 yrs) had pups of her own....waaay too soon, I know. It was an accident. I went out of town for a couple of weeks, my husband didn't know she was in heat, he claims there wasn't any sign of a heat, but our male apparently did. Thank goodness she only had 4 pups. So now, we have 3 pups to sell and would like to know what a fair price would be since we haven't had her hips & elbows certified, etc. The pups dad is homegrown and comes from Rocky vom Brennenbusch (grand sire) and Gerta vom Haus Lobenswert (grand dam). Yeah, I know....I can just hear it now...."Backyard breeders," blah, blah, blah.

why don't you figure out what your expenses are and divide the amount by three. Otherwise, I will call you a BYB.

Just in time for some extra cash for Xmas eh? What impeccable timing those dogs have...

Actually, the "blah, blah, blah" says it all. Sell the mutts for whatever you can get for them. your brethren start at about $2500. Wait! Those BYBs at least have hip certifications,huh? ...And, yes, you did ask for it.

Most people assume having an intact male and an intact female will eventually produce puppies. Did you take Health class? Find good homes for them. GIVE them to the good homes after having them spayed/nuetered (very young for that, yes, but better early spay than early pregnancy)and a microchip with YOUR name on it. If any of these three EVER EVER EVER end up in a rescue or pound go and get them and care for them until the day they die. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE or them. How much should you charge?????? Don't charge ANYTHING. Consider the amount of money you are out a sort of FINE! It was an accident. Bullshit.

It could have been an accident. We all have our stupid moments. I'm sure the husband didn't notice that the male was drooling constantly and chattering his teeth. He probably thought that the dog was completely constipated. Why else would he be pacing around the door for three days straight. I'm also sure that the dog never showed any sign that she may be coming into prime heat prior to conception. Never saw the female start to flag. You people should be ashamed for jumping to conclusions. We all make mistakes. Look at your Chris Colombus. Like I said, figure out expense and divide by three. That will give you the price of each puppy. If you charge more than that, you are a BYB and the locals will burn you at the stake.

I'm not as experienced as some, however, my advice would be to sell them for the "going price" for a purebred GSD. When people become interested in the pups, make sure you inspect their homes - like an adoption. They should sign a spay/neuter contract and a contract that says if they decide not to keep the dog, they will return the dog to you and you will give them some of their money back. So, yeah, you may lose money but it's better than seeing the dogs end up at the pound. I guess most breeders really don't know where their pups are going, except they have the person's name and address. A breeder I know sold a VERY high drive pup to a couple and their 9 yr old daughter who lived on the 10th floor apt in the city. They had also never owned a dog before. Seems like a red flag to me. Sure, they had a lot of money, but no amount of money is going to stop that puppy from sinking it's drivey little teeth into that kid. Then they wonder what they got themselves into - and puppy ends up at the pound. When you've got money to burn, the $2500 they paid for that puppy is no big deal to rid themselves of a burden they didn't count on. They'll just get a Doodle next time. Sorry, I tend to go "worst case senario". Good luck with your puppies.

I don't think asking someone to be more responsible than yourself is a good thing. Why would I take advise from a person that accidently bred their dogs. And why would I pay the going rate for a dog that has to be spayed or neutered?

Actually, that's a pretty good idea to spay and neuter them before they go, plus your name and address on the microchip. Even giving them away to good familes would be nice, or just asking for the money spent on shots, etc. It would just be heartbreaking to see them end up at the pound like other GSDs from people who didn't know what to do with them, and really didn't know what they were getting into.

This isn't about the owner, this is about the puppies. I don't know what the going rate for a purebred, non-AKC, non-titled, GSD puppy is. I would hope it is just enough to cover shots and food, not hundreds of dollars - though I'm probably wrong on that. She should be strict with whom the puppies go to, no matter if they are a mistake or not. The puppies should not be punished for the owner's mistake. Whether they're free or not, the owner should take every precaution possible to ensure they will go to loving, responsible homes.