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by GoldenElk on 14 December 2007 - 19:12
What has this company done to reassure you that it won't in the future, once again, be the cause of hundreds of pets dying?
I see a couple of their premium kibbles are very popular here and that those who are feeding them appear to be having good results, but in the back of your mind don't you have slight worry about the past repeating itself?
by Nancy on 14 December 2007 - 19:12
I don't think that question is limited to Diamond. Think of all the recent issues with all kind of foods.
and foods coming from China in general.
by eichenluft on 14 December 2007 - 19:12
the problem was in the corn. Diamond as well as other dog foods had trouble with one shipment of corn. The foods mentioned in other threads are non-corn-ingredient foods made by Diamond. Never were a problem. And their normal foods with corn ingredient are not a problem now.
molly
by vox on 14 December 2007 - 19:12
absolutely. Their lamb & rice variety claims New Zealand lamb as #1 ingredient, which is questionable considering the low price. i believe it may have poisoned a dog I had 5 years ago (maybe aflatoxin, but possibly other ingredients were responsible). They also make the Chicken Soup "holistic" food...which I'm reluctant to feed, remembering the previous experience.
by eichenluft on 14 December 2007 - 19:12
I have fed Chicken Soup for 4 years now and my dogs' coats and condition has never been better on any other food, including raw. CS has no corn or wheat ingredient. The problem with Diamond's foods was in the corn ingredient, and it is also a problem that is in the past, over and done with, and also not exclusive to Diamond.
molly
by Do right and fear no one on 14 December 2007 - 19:12
Wendy's, Tyson Foods, Taco Bell, and about a hundred other food acquisition places have had past problems. You accept that they want to stay in business and will make efforts to clean up their act. But, there are no guarantees for any product not to some day be harmful.
I would bet my next buck, that the next food producer or distributor that has a problem, is not one that has already. Just the laws of averages. The question should be phrased more accuractly as: What does Diamond Food HAVE to do to earn your trust from here are out/ I believe you answered that already. They are being used by many satisfied customers right now. So they must have done something right, or there are many fools in the world.
Which is probably the most correct answer of all.

by MI_GSD on 14 December 2007 - 21:12
I'm feeding the Diamond Naturals (60lb and over) to the dogs and also Diamond Naturals to my Bengal cats. Neither have any corn at all and I'm pretty sure it was just the Diamond canned that had a problem as did so many other brands of pet food. I'm sticking with it because I have never had a problem with loose or huge stools and they all look terrific. Not only that, the cats actually love it and cats can be picky, picky. Like DRFNO said, shit happens and shit gets fixed. Or something along those lines:)
by Nancy on 14 December 2007 - 22:12
The Diamond problem was a few years ago and it was the dry food - aflatoxin in the corn -Quite a number of dogs in our area died from it. The more recent one related to melamine in imported products from china.
I think DRFNO hit the nail on the head though. The food supply (human and animal) is pretty scary these days. And all this stuff from China - It really bothers me that we have all these regulations on how food is supposed to be produced but yet we import a LOT of food from unregulated countries.
I watched them loading the stuff for pet food into 18 wheelers from a poultry plant - plastic bags, trash, and all. ...........

by Bob-O on 15 December 2007 - 00:12
The main problem is with the staffing of the U.S.D.A.. The U.S.D.A. has a loud bark, but a very small bite. The organization is severely understaffed with no forseeable changes. It is very similar to the I.N.S.-there are plenty of tough laws but little enforcement. It is all a matter of priorities.
As far as the meat sources for dog food, it all comes from poultry, beef, pork, or fish processing. These raw pieces are sent to a processor who dries them and then shreds them into very small pieces-virtually a powder. These meat products and by-products are mixed with other nutrients and shipped to a dog food manufacurer in large sacks that weigh approximately 2,000 (two-thousand) pounds each. At this point it is known as "meat meal".
Basically, what a dog food maker demands from the source of the meat meal is a certain protein percentage combined with a certain product density. Both of these specifications can be quickly measured by taking a sample. That is how the recent Chinese problem became such a big issue, as the Chinese exported a lot of meat meal to the U.S.A. and this meal was purposely contaminated to inflate its indicated protein content. Essentially, more protein = more money.
The only thing that I remember being processed on-site was the yellow corn, which was ground by the truckloads. Everything else arrives as a blended meal or mineral of some type.
Bob-O
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