FCI database for hip/elbow scores? - Page 1

If anyone can give me a link, if this exists, I'd appreciate it. I am doing some research for an acquaintance regarding the parents of her pup. She has a very nice workingline pup but has no clue about hips and such. I contacted the people who sold her the pup and asked about the parents HD and ED reports. So far they have not provided the info I requested. They claim that both parents are "a normal 0/0". Four times I asked for specific info and proof of hips being done at all and the rating they received and no answer except dancing around the question. I called OFA on the off chance that they were also registered there. They are not. I was told by the seller that the sire and dam have their A stamp with the FCI so, I am trying to verify this for the lady with the pup. Is there a link to the FCI database to verify if the parents indeed have their hips done and if so what rating they received? I'm starting to smell a rat. I hope I am wrong. I am familiar with the people she bought the pup from ( and most of you would be too) they are well respected on here but as we all know,if you don't ask the right questions..... I can provide the names of the parents but will only do so privately. This lady is in over her head with this little high drive pup and, I am helping her no charge because it's in the best interest of the pup so any help you might be able to send my way would be great. I don't want to see this pup wind up in a pound when she becomes uncontrollable, which is not far away. At 5 months she already runs the car and the owner. Thanks in advance

Gsdlvr2, to my knowledge there is not a searchable F.C.I. database. I have seen their hip rating on a pedigree; in this case it was for a Mexican-born GSD who was F.C.I. registered and whose hip quality was determined by the F.C.I..

I looked again, but could not find anything useful.

Regards,

Bob-O

I would not immediately assume the breeder is not telling the truth. Dog hip rating schemes vary by country. I have a dog from the Czech republic whose hips are 0/0, meaning no dysplasia. One parent could be rated under the SV system (a stamp) and the other from a different country. Without knowing the parents, and without seeing the rating papers sent to the breeder or owners of the sire and dam, who is to say? Bottom line, if the woman is in over her head with this pup, ask her to ask the breeder to take the pup back sooner than later. Otherwise, the one who will suffer WILL end up being the pup.

The seller will not take the puppy back. It's a done deal. I am going to help her so the puppy doesn't suffer. If she still can't handle the pup after I help her I will take the puppy off her hands. The puppy won't suffer if I have anything to do with it. I'm not assuming the breeder isn't telling the truth I am just wondering why it is so hard to get an answer? I would happily take this pup from her but first I'd like to try and help her succeed. the sire and dam are most likely rated in Slovakia. I asked repeatedly for copies of the papers where it shows the hip ratings but so far they seem unwilling to produce them which is why I am a bit suspicious. I checked the SV database,the sire who is German workinglines is not on there but probably exported before his hips were done.

the hips have nothing to do with the drives. The point is the puppy owner was told two things. One that the pup would be basically a house pet and nothing more would be required from the owner except basic OB. But this is not true, this puppy needs a job such as SCH. This woman didn't even know what SCH was until yesterday when I explained that to her. Clubs are few and far between around here so that's why I said I'd help her get started with the training and try to get her to understand the amount of work that she will have to commit to to keep this pup adequately busy so she will be easier to manage and in the hopes that she will then move on to a good club. Right now this is all foreign to her. There are a multitude of bad dog trainers around here and I'd hate to see this nice young pup get ruined because the owner is vulnerable and overwhelmed. The parents hip ratings have nothing to do with the pups hips and yes she can just go get prelimed. I was explaining alot of things to her about shepherds and the issue of hips came up in the subject. I told her I didn't mind looking up the parents hips thinking it would be on here under the parents names but no hip info is entered. When I asked the seller and they were not able/willing to provide proof that the hips had been done. I became suspicious. We all know that misrepresentation happens. I am simply trying to verify what she was told by the seller to be true because she asked me to and I don't mind. I've seen this pup several times. She is out of control but not her fault. I could handle her easy. The problem is she was sold to a pet person and in my opinion it's a bad match. It's because the new owner is not a handler that the pup is running things. Once upon a time we all had to be taught to be handlers too. I hope this answers your questions.

The problem is not the pup.It is the owner not knowing what she's doing or what she's got in that puppy. That's why she's "out of control". This owner hasn't got a clue how to properly use a prong collar or any other collar for that matter.. Actually,it would be more accurate to say that she's a normal pup who is learning how to run the show due to the owner's ignorance. She bought it because of it's birthday!!! She is an uneducated pet owner. I'm going to try and teach her how to appropriately handle this pup without ruining her. If owner doesn't change what she's doing there is big trouble ahead and soon. The owner doesn't even know the most basic things about training and handling. She's a nice puppy and I would love to take her off her hands but it's better to try and teach her first. This pup does not need a prong collar. She needs an owner who knows what they are doing. No reason to post the pups pedigree,it isn't relevant. She's a very nice workingline bitch and never should have been sold to this person IMO-bad match but what's done is done.