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by LEWLY on 25 November 2007 - 01:11

I was wondering if anyone has an opinion on which lines have more intelligence? east/west/belg/chec/  show vs working?


kleinenhain

by kleinenhain on 25 November 2007 - 01:11

I've owned west  working and found him to be very smart, i've owned a showline that  to me was lazy and didnt seem smart at all. I own a Male now that is i'm told 75% East and 25%Czech and I am amazed at just how smart he is. But I'm sure a big part of how smart a dog is is in the time spent in teaching him what you want him to do.


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 25 November 2007 - 01:11

I dont think you can attribute intelligence to any given strain.  A dog is smart or he isn't, you cant teach him to be smart.

If he's smart he will learn faster and training will be easier.  I think in a puppies intelligence can be observed if you know what your looking for.

This looks like another heated debate....lol


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 25 November 2007 - 01:11

Just an observation of mine, but over the years some of the smartest dogs I've known were muts, curr's, street dogs.

I know someones gonna bash show dogs over working lines.

I firmly believe that true herding lines are smart, but not smarter.  It really is a loaded question.

JMO.


by LEWLY on 25 November 2007 - 03:11

Sorry I didn't mean to start a debate, I was just looking for info for myself when I am ready for a new dog. I had one that was Belgium and he was very smart and very keen. But also a aggresive, I wanted to avoid that next time


Shepherd Woman

by Shepherd Woman on 25 November 2007 - 03:11

I agree Two Moons.  Either they are or they aren't!!!!


Shepherd Woman

by Shepherd Woman on 25 November 2007 - 03:11

I agree Two Moons.  Either they are or they aren't!!!!


by maxislooking on 25 November 2007 - 04:11

Dogs reflect their owners...


by southtexan on 25 November 2007 - 05:11

Let me say upfront then that mine is Very Intelligent!  lol

I think drives and nerves play a large part on how easy the dog is too train. I have also found dogs with lower drives/nerves can be trained easily enough to a certain level but more demanding stressful training can be difficult as things like avoidance start showing up. The dog is plenty intelligent and recongizes when you are about to ask something that it does not want to do.

Have never noticed a difference between lines and almost all the GSD's I have been around were all very smart as far as dogs go...

 

 


by Puputz on 25 November 2007 - 05:11

I don't really think of intelligence as something that can be measured in terms of drives or how easily the dog can be trained. Ease in training, I would call biddability, doesn't necessarily mean dog is 'smart' just that he is willing to please. And if that's what you want certain lines have it more, and with German Shepherds I would look more into what's actually in the pedigree and not by a broad definition (i.e. not just because it's show, working, east, west). I have a dog who is very drivey, but difficult to train and I groan every time I have to teach him something 'new' because it takes forever to get it through his head. But I wouldn't call him stupid. Being around him is almost like being around a human and he seems to grasp concepts other dogs I've had haven't. I think that part of him is who he is, and not necessarily what lines he is.





 


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