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by Jewel on 21 November 2007 - 17:11

Hello, I'm new to the board, but have been lurking until we got our puppy--a gorgeous female of german show lines & working lines. I hope it is okay to ask training questions here. We don't intend to do PSA or Schutzhund with her, just want a nice family dog to walk and hike with and to be a big part of our family. If this board isn't the best place for me, please let me know of another board that I may go to with questions--thanks. She is 8 weeks old and is very mouthy. We have also noticed that she is licking her vagina a lot and there was some discharge that looked kind of like thin egg white around it and in the hair, so she has an appt. with the vet this a.m. Also, when I was scratching her ear, it smelled a bit strong, so I will have vet look at that, too. I bring up the discharge & smelly ear because I wonder if she is not feeling 100% if this could cause her to be more mouthy and whiny--both the whining and mouthing is more than I've ever experienced in past pups we've raised. We just laid our gsd boy to rest this past summer--he was never this mouthy, but was an american-type gsd. I'm wondering if the working lines have anything to do with this? We read in the Monk's book that if she bites, to hold onto her muzzle, give it a little shake and then hold our hand out so she may lick it. She rarely licks, just bites more. It's as if she gets angry at us for doing this rather than feeling bad because we are displeased with her. And, she bites hard with those puppy teeth! She has broke my skin, not to blood, but has with my son who avoids her. I don't want to do anything wrong in the way of training that could have lasting effects, so I hope you have some feedback! Jewel

animules

by animules on 21 November 2007 - 18:11

Many ggod pups are known for being mouthy.  Get some acceptable toys for her to chew, we use the solid rubber toys (kongs).  Everytime she starts mouthing on your hand or whatever you don't want her too, give her a toy instead.  We keep a few laying around so one is always handy if we need it.  It may take time but has worked for us through multiple pups.


by davegaston on 21 November 2007 - 18:11

What works for me is a loud, high pitched eheh then slowly remove the hand and hold it against the chest or shoulder.  This mouthieness is play and this will tell her you don't play that way. This was from advice from a very good trainer I have.

My 6 month old from German Show lines does whine a lot especially when I leave the room. He can't stand being away from his Daddie. I just ignore that as much as possible.


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 21 November 2007 - 18:11

I think the discharge and the smelly ears should be looked at by a vet. 

The toys are important.  

I heard a trainer once say to thinly spred peanut butter on your hand to promote licking over bitting, I dunno,  you'll get tons of advice.

Strange as it will sound when my puppies bite and wont stop I shove my finger all the way down the puppies throat until it gags.  I know, eww gross.  But after a time or two they stop biting.  Never be rough with the puppy or invite biting in play.

Use a toy for this kind of play.

Everyones gotta plan ya know.  Just hang back and see what kind of advise you get and then choose for yourself what sounds like a good idea.  Everybody's got one.

And welcome to the message board, hope you get something out of it.

Brent.


by Sparrow on 21 November 2007 - 19:11

Hi Jewel, welcome! Don't worry about this not being the right place for you, stick around long enough and you may change your mind about doing Schutzhund.  I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your boy, I know how hard that is.  I lost a young dog last year so I've gone (am still going through) puppyhood twice in two years.  I'm no expert but have had my share recently. 

Most puppies are biters to some extent, it's how they taste, play and test their limits.  I found what worked for me was to walk away and leave the puppy alone, they don't like that.  If you can even go to another room and close the door for a few minutes but not long enough for her to get into anything.  When she bites you may use any word you like, including a sharp "eh eh" like recommended above or even and "OUCH!", then walk away.  They get the idea pretty quick that if they bite too hard your attention is taken away.  Let her cry for a minute but when you come back to her act really happy to see her but not too much excitement, just praise.  Start playing again and if she bites repeat this.  I have a friend who makes me crazy with my dog, she puts her hands in front of his face and pushes his muzzle as in rough play, then when he bites her she gets mad, well HELLO, she's enticing him.  Good or bad on my part I don't correct him for it, if she's that stupid she deserves it.  I've told her about it and she doesn't listen, oh well.  Any hand gestures near the face seem to aggravate the biting issue so if you ignore it and walk away she should get the message.  I tend not to be too harsh on babies and by the same token don't let them get away with much.  This has worked for me but yours may be different, use the method you like best for a few days and if it isn't working you can try another method.  Keep up with it and don't let her get away with it or she'll learn she can win.  Good luck and congrats on your new girl.






 


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