Do Rights Fainting Goats - Page 1

Just wanted to put up a couple of pics of my goats.  I have three Fainting Goats, all Billy goats (meaning males for those that don't know).  Here is Tex and Boris.  I have a third that is almost all black and his horns curl backwards like a typical ram.  His name is Charlie.  I can't find Charlie's pic right now (as usual, I am blaming it on my wife for my inability to find it).  Anyway, these FAINTING GOATS are the only goats I have ever owned in my life.  I have never had any other type of goat  Not a pigmy goat or any other breed of goat.  I also have never said that I have pigmy goats.  Just to make that clear because some people are.........usually wrong.

Anyway, all three are about 150 lbs, give or take, and are larger than any GSD on the planet, plus they know how to use those horns, but are vunerable on attack from behind, so I keep them away from my dogs (see the 6 foot fencing).  Contrary to what I believe when I got them, they prefer eating leaves on bushes and trees much, much more than they like to eat grass.  They love whole kernal corn and eat from my hand.  Charlie actually butted me on the butt a couple of days ago because I was carrying a can of corn and wouldn't give him any more.  I was walking away from him.  It lifted me off the ground but didn't hurt (thank goodness he hit me on the butt ).  Also, I had heard thru the years, that goats eat cans and just about anything.  Well, mine don't.  They are actually very picky about what they eat.  It took me two weeks to get them to eat Alfalfa Hay (which is 8 to 10 dollars a square bale now because of the drought in our area).

Tex is named thus because his horns stick out to the side like a long horn steer.  Boris is named because that is what he looked like to me.  Charlie was already named when I got him and he is the tamest.  He is like an overly friendly puppy.  It actually is a pain to be around him (in more ways than one).  I have better pics somewhere, of all three, if anyone wants to see them better.  I can post them tomorrow, if anyone is interested.  Fainting goats are interesting and I can relate some facts about them, but the info can also be googled.  No one really knows where they originated but they have been traced back to a man that showed up in a Tennessee town (they are also known by the names "Tenn. Fainting Goats" and "Stiff Legged Goats") many years ago and had three, along with what he called a "Holy Cow".  The local doctor bought the goats because they were interesting, and the man left town with his Holy Cow, and no one knows where he obtained the fainting goats.  All know fainting goats came from those three.  One male and two females if I remember the story correctly.  They actually don't "faint".  When startled, their muscles "freeze" and they can fall over for 10 seconds or so.  It is a genetic fault called Myopia, If I remember the spelling.  Look it up.  They are cool.  Most people have the miniature ones.  I have the original, full size ones, and am looking for the same in a female or two but can not find any with long hair year round (most lose the long hair in the summer and mine don't).  If you know of any large females that keep their long hair year round, drop me a line.  I'll buy them.

How adorable!!  My spouse won't let me get goats.  I tell him they would take care of the black berry and locust tree problem but he points to the neighbor across the roads escape artist goats and says something to the effect of when the underworld freezes over.

Colleen and K9 Barbie

DoRight, which story below is accurate? In the first story, there was just one female with the male. You say both the male and female attacked the goats. In the second thread and story, you (TEST) 2 female GSD's. You say, the females wouldn't engage the goat. I got the idea your male GSD was solo when he struck the goat's back end, and then you outed him?

It seems you spend a lot of time, as you put it (TESTING) your GSD's in regards to engaging the poor goats?

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/141992.html#142186

I have to run into town for a while, but I am anxious to hear about all the goat tests. I will see you back here. Same "Goat Time" same "Goat Place", same "Goat Channel"...........from here on, can I call you GOATMASTER?

DR:    DALLAS COWBOYS ARE WINNING

BEATING THE WINGS OFF THE PHIL....EAGLES......SORRY ABOUT THAT....YOUR GOATS ARE ADORABLE......WOW   YOU ALMOST HAVE A FARM......

TERREL OWENS JUST CAUGHT HIS 10 TH CATCH AND HES ON HIS WAY DOWN THE FIELD.......

YEAH    DALLAS                       COWBOYS.......

IM CURIOUS    DR?   WHY DO YOU HAVE THREE MALES....WHY NOT A NANNY GOAT......THEN YOU CAN HAVE GOAT MILK FOR YOUR PUPPIES...

GOAT MILK HAS THE HIGHEST RICH CONTENT OF VITAMINS AND MINERALS   FOR GSDS PUPS....

AND IN A FEW YEARS YOU CAN SELL BABY GOATS TO ALL THE BREEDERS IN YOUR AREA FOR THEIR PUPS......

JASON WHITTEN JUST RAN DOWN TO THE 8 YARD LINE WITHOUT HIS HELMUT.......AN EAGLE PLAYER CLINTON MICHAEL   YANKED IT OFF BUT HE WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE 8 AND NOW HALF THE WAY TO GOAL   . EAGLE GOT A FACE MASK PENALTY......I SMELL ANOTHER    TD.......

DALLAS   COWBOYS      MARION BARBER  236 RUSHING YARDS    35---10

DALLAS   COWBOYS     FIELD GOAL     38-10      YEAH

YellowRose:  I have three male goats because they are the only ones I have been able to find of their kind.  I don't want what everyone else has.  I want something unique and different.  Most who have fainting goats have the miniatures or they have the larger ones, but mine are the larger ones that have long hair year round.  It is not too tuff to find males like that but it is, so far, impossible, to find females that are large and have the long hair year round.  That is why.  I have searched the net and can not find any females and if someone finds me one or two, I will buy them on the spot.

gsdsch3v:  I have never had any other kind of goats but I can tell you that these fainting goats have "stiff" back legs, and they walk like their back legs a do not bend more than an inch or so.  Like they are on stilts, and they are not excape artists.  They can not get over even a three foot high fence and don't try.  They will put there front legs up on the fence to reach leaves on bushes and trees on the other side, but they can not get over the fence.  At least mine can not.  I have written about my goats on other threads (as mentioned above with the links provied by someone who, again, is.........usually wrong).  Here is what I wrote to save you the trouble of going back and forth.

"I let one female shepherd with the goats in their fenced in section and the goats formed a circle and the dog just stood near them barking.  I then let the male GSD in with the goats and the female, and the dogs immediately attacked the three goats, seperating one from the other two and chased it, biting at it.  I would not have done this if I was not confident in that my dogs would come to me when called and they did.  No goats were hurt.  I have seen dogs herd sheep, which is different from horned billy goats.  If I am going to raise these fainting goats for fun, then I might want to train my GSD's to herd them.  I have to investigate it more and see what all it will take.  Might be more trouble than it is worth.  The goats go where I want them to, just by me shaking a coffee can filled with corn and leading them.  Their previous owner taught them that."

and

"My female GSD's will attempt to attack them if given the chance but will back off when the goats turn and face them.  My male just goes right after them and gets behind them, and can and will hurt them.  I tested my females and the goats did not have a problem with them but when I tested my male, he went straight to business and the goats ran (they did not run from either female and stood their ground), and my male got one from behind and I outed him and he stopped.  From what I witnessed, he would and could kill one of those billy goats, or at least really mess it up.  I moved my goats to the "south forty" as we call it, and have a third female GSD that stays with them.  She is an American lines rescue that I have and she gets along with them okay.  We also have a miniature horse there with the goats and the one GSD female, and all get along okay."

gsdsch3v:  I truly wanted to have my goats get along with my dogs, but it just didn't seem feasible, except for one GSD that I sort of rescued from a home that kept her in a kennel her entire life, and she is a little nuts. She "spins" and cries when she is put in a kennel, and seems have a problem with any confined quarters, but I found out that she could care less about my horse and goats, so I let her stay in the pasture with them, where she has plenty of room to do whatever.  It is entirely fenced in and she not only has a dog house, but can go into the three sided "run in shed", if she wants (it is brand new 18 x 10 x 10 and the darn goats and horse don't even use it).  She seem

She seems happy there, and I feel better with her there just in case of coyotes or whatever.  Afterall, that is what the GSD is all about.  The goats are so slow, because of their stiff back legs, that they could not come even close to being able to keep up with her, if they decided to try and harm her, but they don't and she don't, so I am lucky in that regard.  As indicated above.  I tried my other three shepherds with the goats and it was immediately obvious that it would not be worth pursuing, so I just dropped it.  They are kept totally separate, although my other dogs look longingly through the fence, towards the goats, and I know what they are thinking.  (Bad dogs.) Not really, just being dogs.

I'll have to keep working on him about it.  I even tried for pygmy goats but I stil get the look.  :( 

Poor echomeadows almost ended up having six of the neighbor's goats dumped at her shelter when the sheriff told Sgt Rayburn:" Just take them to pet rescue!!"  Luckily cooler heads prevailed (we found it easier to put them back in their yard than have a "goat rope" and wrestle them into the patrol car (Sgt Rayburns not mine and Barbies)

Colleen and K9 Barbie

DoRight, On July 3rd you post a scenario of you deciding to see what would happen in nature. The scenario is of only one (singular) female GSD who will not engage the goats. You then allow a male GSD to join her, and according to you both dogs are chasing and biting AT the goat.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/111236.html#111255

3 months and 23 days later, you post about an entirely different scenario.  This time you call it a TEST. In your post you test your 2 females (plural) and they will not engage.  Then you say, you test the male and he "went straight to business".  In this different scenario the male actually GETS the goat from behind.

 http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/141992.html#142186

You can tonight, take parts of each scenario out of context and run them together in a feeble attempt to cover yourself, but anyone who can read and has a slight amount of common sense, can see these are totally different scenarios, dated over 3 months apart.  You were a Detective, the facts are in the threads.

By the way, will there be a chapter in your upcoming book, about your GSD testing with the goats?