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by Member on 03 November 2007 - 10:11
Is there any where in the World outside of Germany judged by SV judges where VA Titles are awarded in conformation shows where there is no protection/ TSB taking place. Also since the last meeting of the SV which took place after the German Sieger Show 2007 do you know of any country who might be looking to award these Titles without protection/TSB.

by Dog1 on 03 November 2007 - 12:11
The sieger shows where there is no protection the highest conformation rating is V. No VAs are awarded. There would need to be a rule change prior to awarding VA without protection work.
by gsdcp on 03 November 2007 - 14:11
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PAKISTAN IS ONE OF THOSE COUNTRY WHERE THESE SORT OF THINGS HAPPEN VERY OFTEN. WE DONT HAVE BITE WORK HERE, NEVER EVER WE HAVE SEEN BITE WORK OR PROTECTION WORK DONE BEFORE THE JUDGING, STILL WE HAVE "VA" TITLES. OF YOUR SCROLL DOWN THE SREACH LIST OF VA1 IN PAKISTAN, U WILL SEE
VA1 EBRO PISTE TROPHE ( JUDGED BY ERICH BOSHL) GOOD WINE,DINE & WOMEN CAN GET U A VA TITLE IN PAKISTAN..
VA1 ZELLO ARKANUM
BOTH THESE DOGS DID NO BITE WORK BEFORE GETTING THE TITLE.
MONEY MATTERS
GSDCP,LAHORE CHAPTER
by Ilse on 03 November 2007 - 14:11
What is the value outside Germany a VA ??? : nothing
by gsdcp on 03 November 2007 - 14:11
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by animules on 03 November 2007 - 14:11
Ilse, I do believe there will be some in the U.S. that disagree with you. I would think a VA achieved in the U.S. does mean something.
by Member on 03 November 2007 - 14:11
In the US and in any other place in the World do they have to do Protection/TSB to achieve the Status of VA ? , this was my original question, apart from one posting it would appear that for all those that have viewed this Topic "NO ONE" awards or are going to award VA without the same requirements that are required in Germany. I would like to thank those who have taken the time to reply to this posting.
by Ilse on 03 November 2007 - 14:11
a Va in the US ,,means,, ($) maybe something for the US, but was it not the VA 1 sieger of the US who ran as a coward from the helper at the Siegershow in Braunsschweig ??? 10 of 30 get VA , what will these dogs archive in Germany?? with a average V dog you can make a Va in the Us, so tell me what is the value?
by gsdcp on 03 November 2007 - 15:11
Well folks
keep a follow up for this year sieger show in pakistan, you will see
no bite work
and STILLVA's
by Ilse on 05 November 2007 - 12:11
Animules---???
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