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by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 18 October 2007 - 12:10
I'm sure everyone has heard by now the story about Ellen DeGeneres adopting a terrier from Mutts n Moms Rescue....I don't even really watch her show but yesterday while flippin through the channels I noticed her balling her eyes out sending out a plea to this group to please just give the dog back to the family with the little girls. So it caught my attention and I watched the show, well at least the part about the dog being taken away by the rescue group because DeGeneres apparently had the dog for a little while and tried to have the dog trained professionally to learn to live with her cats, when that wasn't working out she gave the dog to her hairdresser who had 2 daughters and the dog was doing great there until one day the Mutts n Moms rescue lady called DeGeneres to check on the terrier and DeGeneres told her that the dog was doing fine but had to be given to her friend because it would not get along with her cats. Next thing anyone knew the Rescue Group went to the owners house and seized the dog because DeGeneres breeched the contract she signed by stating if she ever rehomed the dog she would contact them first.
Now I understand "contracts" but clearly in this case I think it sucked to take this pooch from those little girls. I could see if it was mistreated but why would you take back a rescue dog that was doing fine where it was placed?? Gotta be more to the story than what I heard because this doesn't make much sense.
Do you guys/gals think the dog should be returned to the family or stay with the rescue? The rescue lady said she's sticking to her guns and not returning the dog.

by MI_GSD on 18 October 2007 - 12:10
The last I heard the dog had already been placed with another family and yes, I think it sucks. It's one of the reasons I got out of rescue and started having fun with my own dogs. It's not the dogs or the adopters that bothered me, it was fellow rescuers. They can be the most judgmental people you'll ever want to meet. Yes you should be careful about who you adopt a dog out to but you can take it way too far. The goal is to get these dogs into loving homes and you can't do that if you pick apart a family's life and lifestyle. I have seen more than one rescue that will ask for paycheck stubs or tax return paperwork. I know of a local rescue that will take animals back if they find out the adopter is a smoker.
DeGeneres worked with a trainer to get this dog to get along with her cats but it just didn't work out so she did what she thought was right and gave the dog to a friend's little girl who adored the dog. So it was better for the rescue to once again uproot the dog and give it to yet another family? I don't think so.
by eichenluft on 18 October 2007 - 12:10
If I were Ellen I'd be taking that rescue org to court. She paid $600 for that dog - it was her dog. She could give it to anyone she wanted. Contacting the rescue at that point would have been a nice thing to do, but not a requirement - SHE OWNED THAT DOG, SHE PAID FOR IT. I think if she pursued this the rescue wouldn't have a leg to stand on, and could get in trouble for trespassing, theft and fraud. I hope she does pursue it.
molly
by Het on 18 October 2007 - 13:10
I have only met 1 person who does rescue that is not crazy. She is a GSD person here in Dallas, very nice lady. I would never work with a rescue group because of it and would never get a dog from one. I had one client that had a dog (lab) that was very high drive, they got the dog and wanted to make sure it would be good with young kids ect..well the group put them through the ringer befor ever letting them even see the dogs. when they finally got "approved" for a dog they didn't evey get to pick it out. The group brought out a dog and that is the one they get. So here they have an out of control lab that is about 1 jumping all over and being crazy, so they call me. I was recommended to them from the vet. We started him on classess and did about 600.00 worth of training, some private lessons, group classes ect. The dog was doing great. We did put a pinch on him as he had a very high pain tolerance and nothing else worked. I don't like the face collar things. Anyway the dog was doing very well, and we were moving to working him without the pinch back onto a flat...when the group came out to do a 6 wk checkup...they were telling them how much work they had done and how good the dog was doing and they thought that now he was going to work out ect...well when the group found out they had used a pinch on the dog the took him. Said they were abusing the dog. So guess what they went out and bought a dog and will never again rescue one. Why would you take a dog into your home bond with it and spend lots of money training ect...just to have someone who doesn't know anybetter come and say you are a bad person and have the right to take the animal away at anytime. When I bring a dog into my home it had better be mine from that point on. I don't want to have someone come and say that they think I am a bad dog owner just because I did some training with the dog.
by andreddi on 18 October 2007 - 13:10
I think it sucks that the rescue group took the dog. Ellen had done training, had the dog neutered, and when she accepted that it was not going to work, found someone who wanted it. The dog got a great home, was doing well, and the little girl loved it to pieces. Shouldn't the ultimate goal of the group be exactly that? Why take it? come on.....
by Reggae on 18 October 2007 - 13:10
by DKiah on 18 October 2007 - 13:10
I'd have had the rescue nut arrested for trespassing and theft..... I orignally thought Ellen should have contacted them and discussed the plan since most rescues do have some sort of plan in place if the dog doesn't work out but they had some weird rule about no kids under 14 or something.
I think rescue people can get a little carried away with their "mission" and start having delusions of grandeur... years ago at the vet hospital where I worked, I was talking to one of the rescue people and had just had a litter and she said "oh brother, when you can't sell them, you'll be looking for me to help you"
I was like.... "lady, all my pups are sold to carefully screened homes and I do not need your so called help in this matter... monkeys would fly out of my butt before that would happen!" Honestly!!
Sorry about the ugly picture that must brew up!
Denise

by iluvmyGSD on 18 October 2007 - 14:10
I finally read some about this story on aol yesterday....and it is completely stupid saying no kids under 14.....the girls were (i think 10 and 11?) someone had made the comment that the girls were the perfect age to take care of a dog, that by the time they turned 14 they would be to worried about boys and friends to give a dog so much attention.....i thought that was a great point and i totally agreed....for me at that age, my dogs were my life, i had MANY dogs and other animals and since i was the only 'real' animal lover in in my family, i took care of them by myself...that was probably the best home that dog would ever have

by Dawn G. Bonome on 18 October 2007 - 14:10
I think that alot of people are thinking the same way. MUTTS AND MOMS have have temporarily inactivated their site. They were overwhelmed with e-mails and phone calls. AWWW....to bad, so sad! PHONYS! They cannot take the heat, but...they can break kids hearts!
by pietowndogs on 18 October 2007 - 14:10
I tried to rescue a GSD from a rescue group, unfortunately they were SOOOOOOOOO CRAZY I never adopted. I completely understand screening but they were out of control, as it turns out the particiular dog I was looking at is still in foster care going on 4 years !!!!!! Lunatics.
I also adopted 2 rescues years ago, one was just more than I could handle and gave her to a very good friend of mine that still has her today. She is so well cared for and I can't imagine too many people tolerating her. She's a handful, but my gentle and tolerant friend has given her the BEST home any dog could have (aside from my own). I never fessed up to the rescue group knowing how nutting they can be.
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