spay incontinence - Page 1

Hi,  we just recieved a disturbing message from a previous puppy buyer. Her 6.5 month old female was spayed 2 weeks ago, since the procedure, she spent the first two days vomiting, and peeing uncontrollably, soaking her crate at night. Before the spay she was tottally house broken and eating 5 cups of food and whatever else she could steal from her housemate, now she is down to 2 cups a day and that is a struggle to get her to eat.  Prior to her spay blood work was done to rule out any problems, it came back negetive for any disorders and the spay went ahead.

Her urine count is low, and diluted, she is not holding her urine, the bladder is filling up too fast.

Any advise? a specialist is being called in the vet thinks she may have had an underlying kydney issue that did not show up with the blood work?   Our breeding dogs have all been screened for genetic diseases and are clear.

So my question is.

Have any of you experienced this before? And can the blood work test we have done on our dogs be, inacurate?

Take her to another vet ASAP.  Second opinion time.

barbken You might want to go to http://www.pitbullforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=71813&highlight=&sid=c2ec57be1f2133c75448d18a0d9dedd7 Which the poster had similar problems as your buyer is having now.

Did your buyer recieved a Post Op instructions from the vet? Did the buyers vet gave the buyer some symptoms to watch for? if so what?

I tell people that are thinking of spaying their female, to wait until 
puppy is at least 9 months old, let her grow a bit.

Also, sometimes a puppy will have what I refer to as a disappearing
dinky, which is when a female has her little female part look like an innie
belly button, for that, I urge them to wait for the pup to go through one heat
cycle, then it straightens it out so it becomes an outy with no problems that
may need surgical correction.

It does sound like second opinion time,

I hope she'll be able to be fixed, in a different way. 

Everyone needs to read this from Chris Zink

http://www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.html

It is really informative and the concept that most of us believe in.... makes total sense....

That was a little off topic, sorry as far as this little girl having these troubles.. has the owner called the vet who did the surgery and discussed the problems with them and had her rechecked??? Have worked at a number of vet hospitals and have seen dogs with this type of reaction but it really isn't normal. My retired SchH3 had a very hard time after her spay a couple years ago, but she was much older.

Some people don't do well after surgery either but I would have this one rechecked.. redo bloodwork, have them xray to see if things look the way they are supposed to (ie, nothing left that shouldn't have been left).....

I'd also have them do a UA .. she may have had a threatening UTI and the surgery kicked it off.... I would however go back to the vet who did the job and then see how it goes.....

They really shouldn't wait any longer either... please let us know how this goes

Denise

Barbken, I'm so sorry to hear about this little girl. 

We had a similar situation - our girl was spayed early at the suggestion of our vet and ended up incontinent a couple of weeks after the surgery.  She did not have the vomiting or appetitie problems, though.  What happened was that we started finding puddles of very weak urine - we thought it was just water at first - where she had been laying.  When she slept or rested, urine would leak out.

We took her to Texas A&M Veterinary School and met with the lead urologist there who did all kinds of tests.  Ultimately, there was no real explanation except that our girl may have needed more hormonal development before being spayed.  She was put on PPA (phenylpropanolamine) and a low dose of DES (diethylstilbestrol) to help replace estrogen.  This has worked very well.  She is now 5 years old and is doing fine.

Another thing to consider is the possibility of botched surgery.  Definitely get another opinion.

The uterus is attached to the bladder by a ligament. It is very easy for botched surgery to cause problems with the bladder or ureters. An infection is also a good possibilty.

Take her to the vet, either the original vet , or get a second opinion from another vet.