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by WiscTiger on 11 October 2007 - 17:10

I have a question for Non-US people or people who show and travel out of the US.  Are dogs in other countries crate Trained?  I would assume yes if they have been shown or trailed, but just wondering.

Crate trained meaning that they behave in a normal fashion, a place to chill out until their time on the fiield or their class is called?

Thanks


AgarPhranicniStraze1

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 11 October 2007 - 18:10

I'd have to say that the answer is yes.  The crates are very customary in taking dogs to trials, shows and training even at a local club.  It not only give the dog time to relax while waiting to take their turn but also keeps order with everyone involved.  If the dogs weren't crated can you imagine the confusion it could cause?? lol

When my dog was imported I was very surprised how much he actually liked being in his crate.  I could tell right away he must have been conditioned to it very well because the moment the crate door would be opened in my truck he'd jump in it without me having to say or do anything at all.  At night or when I'd leave for a longer period of time and crate him he had no problem stepping right in and laying down.  He even knows if I tell him Kotec which means crate in czech, that that's where I want him to go and off he goes to the garage and crate. lol  The crate is a wonderful tool for dogs and owners.  Makes life much easier and less chaotic.  It was probably the Europeans that came up with that idea. lol


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 11 October 2007 - 19:10

Yes, crates are use all over the world at ttrials  in homes because that is the only way air travel will ship...have to get pup ready for travel and imprint ..in a crate   .

Here we use wire kennels,so dogs can interreact with family and see more and not be so warm   . Crate can be in a bedroom or other part of home to sleep in at night and use wire kennels in day time..

All trainers require dog go in crate for thinking purpose,,,,,,a dog with behavioural problems is crated to develop and work on problems...

All puppies for their safety till a full adult dog and trained should be kept in a crate or wire kennel until they can be trusted in home....after that    dog will love his crate but be free in home but you will find out ,,,he returns to his crate to rest and feels its his retriet place....all dogs are   den dogs.....crates are like a den to them.....


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 11 October 2007 - 19:10

In a lot of countries , the dog is not treated quite like we treat our dogs here in the USA....they leave them outside in pens, on dirt and different kinds of floorings......they dont believe the dog belongs in the house....trained or not....

Americans get emotional and closer to their dogs , than some other countries...therefore those countries usuall y make a crate out of boards or wire and have their own renditions   ...breeders havae to have crates to ship in,,,so they use them mainly for travel....


by WiscTiger on 11 October 2007 - 19:10

The reason I asked, was I read something on another thread on this board and I just couldn't believe that dogs in other countries aren't crate trained.  I

LOL I know the benefits of crates, I have 4 dogs who are all crate trained.  When my male was intact and the females would come in season, I really loved the crates.


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 12 October 2007 - 02:10

Wisctiger: When I traveled to Europe 15 years ago  I ate dinner in restraurants in Paris France, with a poodle sitting at the table next to me eating its supper in a 5 star hotel.....in the dinning room ...... In Germany, I saw crates everywhere but as I walked downtown and on a  tour, the was dog poop everywhere and dogs tied outside stores and in stores.....so they do in some countries treat their dogs very well and dont have the same restrictions by the city like we do....

I saw a lot of boxers, and long legged other breeds I had never known or seen before.....In switzerland, I was at the top of a ski lift and stepped out of elevator to find a Keg dog,,,,,big ole slobbery boy   with a keg on his collar under his chin...I spent 30 minutes petting him and talking to his owners while the rest to my group waited on me below.....I always had to stop and pet the dogs.....


the Ol'Line Rebel

by the Ol'Line Rebel on 12 October 2007 - 17:10

That's because Americans ARE too "emotional" and not practical about animals.  It's ironic - on personal levels, the pets are spoiled (rotten) and treated extremely "humanely" (i.e, don't dare even look at them weird!!).

But at the same time, this spoiled-rotten attitude is what gets them in trouble (rightly so).  While in the past dogs may have been restricted from public because of "health concerns", I'm sure mostly it's due to the assumption that the dogs will be out of control, which they invariably are.  In Europe, I think dogs were used more seriously for real work, and obedience and good behavior was expected.  Hence, they tend to be welcome everywhere, ironically.

Who is more "accepting"?

Cesar Milan himself said he never saw such screwed-up dogs until he came to the US.  And he just confirms what I've always suspected.


by Luvmidog on 12 October 2007 - 21:10

Right , Ol'line:    Most dogs in countries over the ocean,,have dogs for a purpose of work and only the rich and famous , dress them up and take them to beauty shops in France and have diamonds on their collars and leashes and live in mansions and have fur line beds....

All the others are either put to work or are owned by sport breeders,,and from the ads on this database ,,they are in full bloom in all the countries....






 


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