Who will educate the domestic Chinese airline for dog transportation - Page 1

Hi,

Its a food for thought for everybody who is living in China. Most of the dog players are living in an area where they can travel by road from one city to other and they dont have to send and receive their dogs by air from different destinations. I recently has faced this problem with Chinese airlines and I think people who love GSD and specially CSV as its the main GSD body in China should look into it. Whenever, one goes to ship a dog for a domestic destination these airlines like China Southern Airline, China Eastern or Hainan Airline they reject the international jetboxes and come up with those stupid looking steel cages covered with a wooden outer cover. The size of the cage cant even hold the puppy of six month where they force an adult GSD and then repack it in a wooden cage. This way they not only destroy the health of GSD but also earn an extra 80 to 100 Euros as they sell the cage and charge the weight as well. Mostly when one sends a female for mating and she comes back after mating she is miserable condition. She cant sit or stand in it. All she can do is to crouch in the cage. When one argues with those Stupid Officials of the Chinese Airlines they just dont understand. I think everybody in China should try to educate these people at the airport. Above all I think its CSV who should do something as they are sitting in Beijing and they have a better influence over the authorities over there. Soon we are going to have Beijing Olympics and I am afraid that they might not put the foreign athletes in those cages and tell everybody its a policy. Who knows?

Seems to me that the Chinese authorities need education on a lot of topics. Like not selling poisonous products, not making dog fur coats, and not clubbing thousands of family pets to death.

Oh, lets not forget to educate them that it is not nice to run over student protestors with tanks.

I really don't see how a generalized political harangue is the slightest bit helpful to Suhailf in his attempt to undo bureaucratic foolishness.

I wonder if these crates have lead based paint in them?

 If the last place in the world to have available shepherds was china I,d learn to train a chicken... There are no blood lines in china that arent available any where else i,m sure. I would not trust the chinese any farther then i could throw a dozen at a time.  

Hi Friends,

I didnt mean to start a political or behavioural science lecture for Chinese. Trust me they love their dogs and treat them very nice. I see that every day. It was a serious issue about which I wanted everybody to learn. Thats really criminal and irrationale to put a nice, trained and expensive dog in that cage which is so small with sharp edges of those rods in every corner. Airline people should know that International Level Jetboxes are all what a GSD requires when it is traveling.

The whole idea behind this discussion was that CSV or some other people sitting in Beijing or other cities could talk to these airline people or arrange some education program for them. As they are doing so many shows, activities and awareness program. There are more dogs in China than any other country in the world other than Germany and more are coming every day. Someone should do something for this. To me its really depressing.

Thanks for the suggestions anyway but they are of no help.

Economics 101

                                 If you inform the clubs in china that you are apperantly working with that this type of animal treatment behavior will not be tolerated and until this problem is resolved you no longer deal with them, if your business is that important to them they have to choises 1 the local dog clubs (probably ran by there goverment) must go to the travel company and deal with the problem or 2  they will personelly transport to you buy other means ?. Since there are so many people out there that put $$$$$ above the treatment of there animals #1 will never work there is always someone who will put the $ infront of well being(and that is not just the chinesse) that is how in a perfct trade aggreement you would deal with the problem. But you are also dealing with a goverment and a people that will tolerate hooking dogs on a meat hook and skinning them alive so i,d find another source...   

ok guys, as much as I hate the issues we currently have with China and what is coming out of there (My Mom's dog was effected by the dog food). I can also appreicate that suhailf is trying to make changes for the betterment of the dog and I can admire that quality in a person.

It is not a matter of education or undoing red tape, it is a matter of giving a damn.  The crates mentioned, go with the things that I mentioned to show that the Chinese officials don't.  BTW, Having a dog nearly die from one treat out of a bag of chicken jerky and contaminated with mould and, yes, made in China kind of turns it from political to personal.

If I were looking into transporting live animals, I would contact the best airline carrier in the world with a reputation for this type of service.  That would be Deutsche Lufthansa AG, their Cargo Airline, Lufthansa Cargo.  Learning from the best is always the way to go as far as I am concerned and can quickly close the learning gap, not only in respect of transporting canines but other live animals.