Translation Help. Please - Page 1

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RE. the working line bitch I linked to above, can someone whose German is better than mine translate the following from her koer report, please?

nicht voll gefestigten Rückenbändern und kurzer, leicht abschüssiger Kruppe

I tried Bablefish already, and didn't get understandable results. I think the last part translates as short, gently sloping croup, but I'm a bit stuck on the first part, which babelfish translates as 'not fully strengthened back volumes'!!

When I get the translation, I'll explain why I'm interested...  :-)

Not to fully strengthened back tapes and short, easily abschüssiger croup

Okay, got it from Leo!  Rückenbändern are the back ligaments. I think this confirms what I've been suspecting. SV judges are judging any back without a slight roach to it as being 'weak'!  I've read in this forum that they judge the back by pressing down on it slightly to see if it gives. This is ridiculous! A back is MEANT to give, to have some spring to it! It's not supposed to be an iron girder!

Anyone else with more knowledge of the judging want to chime in here?

I dunno about the judges but I think her back is perfect. I love this dog and as much as I see you post her I take it you do to Sunsilver?

Yes, she's a very nice looking bitch!

And I think her topline is pretty much what the breed standard calls for.

She looks like nice female, such that can be judged from a picture.  I personally wouldn't need a Koermeister's evaluation to tell me that I like the way she's built. 

Hi - haven't been here in quite a while --  This is a nice looking  bitch - I have had kathargo lines in a male i bred many years ago and he was an excellent dog and stud dog and my best friend for over 11 years  -  Same color as this dog.   About her topline -

Agree that you can't tell everything from a photo -  it is in motion that the back should be judged level or not - and this is in my opinion -  a very long body --  granted, most of that length may be ribbing and not "back"  but she is quite long !!! (and may not be able to carry that length well in some judge's opinion. 

Hello Sunsliver. I have been translating dog breed sureys for many years. First ,let me say there is NO perfect dog!

Here is the complete translation:

Upper medium size, medium strong,  female full of temperament, Normal wither , not quite firm back ligaments, short somewhat steep croup,  good front angulation, and very good rear angulations,  normal front , moves narrow in the front, moves correct in the rear , shows powerful rear drive but the front extension  should be more free   well develped chest proportions, the jumping ligaments shoudl be firmer , sure nerves, courage, and fighting instincts are pronounced, releases tehhbite on command.

So what does it mean?

When the wither is flat it is a real fault. This dog does NOT have a flat wither, she has a normal wither. When it is 'normal' it means still OK, but not ideal. The wither should be high to allow for the best muscle attachments.

Strength of back ligaments is NOT determined by pushing down on the back. it is evaluated when the dog is moving. If the back 'gives' in movement it is not only less effective in transferring power from the rear legs through to the front, it is also more likey to sustain spinal damage in future years.

Good front andulation is really not so good, it is acceptable... A really good front will have at least 'very good' or excellent front angulation.

She has very good angulation in the rear , not excellent, but only a few dogs have excellent!

She is correct in the front meaning when viewed from the front her front legs do not turn in or out, but she does move narrow which ususally means the chest is narrow when seen form the front.

She moves straight in the rear (not cow hocked)

Her gait shows powerful drive in the rear

The extension of her front legs while moving should be freer (more range of motion)

Her depth of chest when viewed from the side profile is well developed

Jumping ligaments should be firmer (hocks)

Sure nerves (not nervous)

Courage, Hardenss and Fighting instincts are Pronounced, and she released the bite on command.

Since every dog has its faults, the survey is helpful to select breeding partners that excell where our dog needs improvement, and vice versa. Koermiesters are not perfect, and each may have a slightly different opinion, but the will usually have only minor differences of opinin on a dog. They are pretty accurate...

You didn't say why you wanted to know...

Jackie Athon

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