Extreme Roach......the sequel.... - Page 1

Somebody had a thread a while back about 'extremely roached backs'--and when I saw this picture it just popped into my mind. Isn't this back a little too roached??? And is that considered a good stack??? I'm not being sarcastic, I really want to know if there is any purpose for this sort of pose. To me, if I had to give this picture a caption, I'd say,"GOTTA GO! GOTTA GO! GOTTA GO RIGHT NOW!" jo

oh man   now thats one horrible stack !!  hindquarters are all bend out of natrual position   it loos to me if this pic was in its origional form some one  pushed his knee onto the croup  to apply pressure making the dog fold into itself :((   Sad part is some people do think a stack such as this is nice looking ;((

out of curiosity do you have an untouched photo of this ??

Pia

I don't like the "roach" back look at all, but I will say that this is a nice looking dog.  It's the sily way that "we" stack the GSD, that acentuates the roach look.  The GSD should stand with both feet alligned in the front and in the back.  The GSD should be stacked like he is a force not taken lightly.   Chest forward, front feet square and alligned.  Back feet square and alligned.  He should look like a solid wall, not a lame dog about to fall over, or a dog going to potty.

A couple of years ago, there was a major all breed dog show (I forget which one it was, Crufts or whatever), and the best in show dog was a German Pointer.  The dog came out near the end of the show, when each group winner was competing for BIS, and this particular dog nailed it when he came out, faced the judge and stood chest out, head up, all feet square, and stood motionless, without any help from the handler what-so-ever.  He knew the pose and did it.  I have never got that dog out of my mind.  That is how a GSD should be stacked.  Not this silly, back feet with one forward and one back, with the hind end almost on the ground like a LA lowrider car.

I don't know why this stack is used.  I know that it is generally the natural stance of the GSD, but not to that extreme, and not with all of them.  People always carry everything overboard, and this silly stance is proof.  That is one thing the working line dogs have over the show lines, that I think should be "transferred".  One animal that practically no one likes is the Hyena, and that is what this stance makes the GSD look like.

Let's have a meeting tomorrow, change the stance for all of the shows and pictures.  C'mon, let's do it.  Are ya wit me?  I can't hear you. 

Kalibeck...lol...that was me who had posted that other thread...and yea, this is what i was talking about... i got a lotta flack for that....

it's funny that you brought this up, my husband builds houses and most of the time he is working in a up-scale neighborhood...yesterday he came home and said. he saw a man walking a GSD and the front of the dog was huge/tall, but the back-end was almost dragging the ground.shrivled-up..lol...he thought the dog had been hurt/ crippled...he thought it looked 'wierd'......

I tried to explain to him that it was a showline GSD...we have a working line and the showline is suppose to look like that....he just kept shakin his head and saying..it just looked weird....he had the same thought as i do...it hurt just to look at it cause the dog looks like it was hurt...

It also reminds me of my rat terrier roscoe....when he was a puppy he got one of his back legs hurt, he is ten years old now and still limps/ favors it, i think he has arthritus in it...well any ways, since he doesn't use it much, there isnt much muscle there, and his back-end is kinda shrivled up, but I guess he puts most of his weight on his front cause his chest and front legs are pretty muscular/ broad for a small dog....so to me a lot of these extreme stacks look like that, like their back end and front end just don't match up....

We have a GSd that walks by all the time, every time I see her, I think what have we done. She looks as thou she is pushed together from the front and the rear with a hump in her back, and she walks on her hocks. I wish I had a picture of her, would make you cry. She is really a sweet thing and the owner loves her.

I copied that photo from an ad on the database..when I saw that, it made me wince..I have a working line, & a showline, neither of them stack like that!!! Do Right, I'm wit ya...dogs should look like dogs! If I was a bad guy, or a wolf about to snag a sheep, one look at a dog like that would not stop me, unless it was from laughing, and it pains me to say that, because I truely love and care about our breed. jo

Do right and fear no one...

Tell that to the Germans who designed the GSD stack... You may wanna stack  Doberman dogs instead...

That Guy is not a ROACH... "just badly stacked"...  The roach shows when there is a break in the topline added by POOR Withers... The roach is a firmer back... than the DIPPING Back like that of Belgian Mals. and Riding horses... He...He...He...

siiiiigggghhh....You might want to see my thread on 'Translation Help needed, Please", which is discussing this exact same thing!

Last time I read the standard, didn't it say a 'STRAIGHT back'???  A roach is a roach is a roach, regardless of how slight it is!

Talk about bad stacks.......check this out!!!  YIKES!! 

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/516882.html

Rozoan

RoZoAn---im pretty sure thats one of the pics i saw that made me start to other thread on this....