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by Luvmidog on 06 September 2007 - 02:09

Friend is looking to buy a high prey working female , for his acreage and only wants to use an underground $3,500.00 under ground wire fencing to keep the girl around the perimeter of his home on 40 acres in Oklahoma...I said it wont work....THis female is high, drive, and hard headed and feels no pain....SHe would probably just go right thru it....She would need some training, I guess , for that kind of fencing....but I dont think it is gonna be appropriate.....anyone could just shoot her and come right on in...I dont know why he wants to use that kind...\

Does anyone have knowledge of this kind of fencing working or have used it....or is using it with a german shepherd, as a protection of the house behind the fencing....Will it keep her in.....

Thanks.


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 06 September 2007 - 02:09

Like you said, even if it keeps her in, it's not going to keep anything out! What if another dog gets onto the property and attacks her? Or as you pointed out, someone could just shoot her, then rob the place.

Doesn't sound like such a good idea to me.


by realcold on 06 September 2007 - 02:09

Dogs in drive will and can go through it. The problem is that when they want to come back they are not in drive and cannot get back. This will leave them in danger to traffic and all sorts of other problems to their safety.


by cledford on 06 September 2007 - 03:09

NO!!!!!!

One of the owners of a pup who was a sibling to my working line female was killed a few months back after being struck by a car.  She blew right through the underground fence, which she was well aware of, while chasing a deer.  The owners verified that the collar WAS working when the retieved it from the deceased dog.

Underground fences are the STUPIDEST thing yet to hit the market.  They do not keep rpey or agressive dogs out, they lead to a situation where if a dog does blow through they aer usually in high enough drive to not notice it, but then they can't get back IN due to the dimished drive level later.

Furthemore, they are EXTEMELY obnoxious to you neighbors who often don't know they are there.  Since most people run them right up to the sidewalk/road (to maximize yard) noone knows if the dog is going to stop until the last second.  This is VERY unnevering when you are walking your dog on the sidewalk.

 

Finally, the batteries CAN AND DO go dead.  Most people forget to check the collar EVERY day.  A neighbor with an underground fence has had his dogs picked up twice due to them running around and harassing people becasue the walked right out of the yard.

-Calvin


by Blitzen on 06 September 2007 - 03:09

I've had an Invisible Fence since 1994. My first GSD went through it a few times chasing a cat. He returned to the yard the same way he left it - he  closed his eyes and ran back through the field knowing he was going to take a correction. To him it was worth the shocks to have at the cat that tormented him for years. We had to have his receiver beefed up by adding extra prongs and I kept his neck shaved.  Blitz, on the other hand,  has never gone through it,  he won't even get near the perimeter.

An Invisible Fence is not intended as containment for a dog to be turned out without supervision. The manufacturer clearly states the dog is never to be left unattended. IMO a high drive dog can and will go through the fence and, as has already been said, it won't keep out other animals or humans. It works well for some dogs if you are trying to keep them inside a small area, but I'd never have one installed to try to contain a dog in an area that large unless I planned to be with him/her every minute.  If I were this guy I'd be thinking of a better way to keep my dog safe, an underground fence is not going to work for him. If he's looking for a dog to guard his house, why not just keep the dog close to or inside the house? In that case an Invisible Fence might work, but a determined  hard-headed dog like my first GSD  can break through.  Another thing to mention to this guy is that you just don't install the fence, put the receiver on the dog and turn it loose. It takes a lot of training meaning this dog would need to be border trained to every inch of that fence before knowing just how far she can go without getting a correction. Sounds to me like a recipe for disaster and someone who is expecting waytoo much from a dog.


gsdfanatic1964

by gsdfanatic1964 on 06 September 2007 - 10:09

I have the "wireless" fence that just uses a signal and you set the distance on the system yourself.  My two gsds have done well with this for only what I intended it for which is basically to keep them within their boundaries of the yard (we have woods all around us) while I am outside also.  I do NOT rely on this fence 100% and only use it for instances where I'm cleaning the kennels, washing the truck etc whilst I am still outside.  My dogs have been very good with this on most occasions.  However, case in point, this past weekend, I had to run in the house for a minute (my hubby was still outside working in the shed) and the dogs started barking (the alarm bark).  I peeked out the window and saw a vehicle pulling up (we don't get much company out here) and before I could get outside, my 8 month old female (generally, the "softer" dog) went thru the "fence" and was circling the vehicle barking (the whole time getting  the correction from the collar).  As she saw me come out, she immediately returned to the "safe" zone.  I'm not sure how the "below ground, wired fence" works but, this one will continue to give a correction for up to 30 seconds, until the dog returns to the safe area.  If my dogs have ever breached the zone, they've always returned immediately.

The "only" reason we have this fence and not a real fence is due to the fact that we are temporarily renting from my husband's boss and are not allowed to physically fence the property.  I am always watching my dogs though.  We have black bear, bobcats, the occasional stray dog, etc..  This fence, as stated above does NOT protect your dog from anyone or anything entering the property.  My question would be, if he doesn't mind putting the $3,500 into this non-fence why wouldn't he just add a little more and erect a real fence?  Unless of course, there are stipulations such as mine above or due to housing authority rules, etc.


Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 06 September 2007 - 16:09

I would not leave a dog unattended with an underground fence!


by Blitzen on 06 September 2007 - 17:09

Neither would I.






 


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