Calling all Master Trainers - Page 1

I have heard this term used a few times here and in talking with other people. What is a Master Trainer?

Do you go to school?

Do you work with different dogs ie temperament problems, aggression, different breeds

Is the Dog Whisper a Master Trainer?

What makes YOU a Master Trainer?

There is absolutely no standardization for dog trainers at all.  Most "certifications" are from an organization that approves of a certain method, like APDTA. Certs mean nothing to me.  Anyone who gives themselves a title like that, in my opinion, wants to blow smoke up someone's hind end. What makes a dog trainer are results and reputation. I did not go to school, I was taught hands on by trainers with decades of experience with everything from competitive work to behavioral issues.

What trainers were you trained by KCzaja? Huge amount of time teaching people about dog training.. Just wondering which trainers with decades of competitive experience, spent that kind of time teaching you.....

 see just like this. who cares? you went to college to be a trainer? did that make you a ''master trainer'' dennis? i read your site. interesting. west virginia canine college. how much did that cost? was that a 4 year school? did you get a degree in dog training? i've been told not to waste money on a school. find a good club and learn there? so which is it? school or from another trainer? which is the best?

 sincerely, kenny

Dennis, I don't consider those who are teaching people to train dogs (good and ethical) a master trainer. I call them professional trainers. NOBODY in the world knows everything their is to be a perfect dog trainer. We learn stuffs new each time we train our dogs. I think in my opinion using such terms like "master trainer" is simply used as a marketing tool to gain more costumers, nothing more.

I think to become a good trainer, you have to be born with the skill. Not everybody can become good trainers, even if they tried, which is the reason why people hire trainers to train their dogs. Theirs good and bad trainers out here... The bad ones don't have the skill and refuses to acknowledgment this.

I'm not trying to be bias but I consider myself fairly decent trainer. I've never went to a college to become a dog trainer. I'm not a professional yet. I still have lots to learn (I admit to it). I'm thankful for my sec dog, Zambi. Shes the one thats helping me to become a better trainer then I am now. Hopefully by the near future I will get lucky like Wallace Payne and to own a fantastic dog like Merlin. We all can dream, right?

I have always wondered myself. When I see those words, "Master Trainer" advertised and on people's web sites, it typically sends up an alarm in my head that screams: "Self-important, fuzzy credentials, most likely not well-versed in the sport of schutzhund."

IMO: If its not in your scorebooks: You ain't got it!

SS

Hey Shelley...

I've notice that also lately on certain websites of these trainers. You know what happens when I see stuffs like that? I run as fast as I can the other away..

You know what else chases me off? People claiming that their a dog whisper! LOL! seems like everybody now these days proudly claim the "dog whisper" sign over their heads after watching Cesar Millan's TV show.

It amases me what people will do for extra cash :)

Send me a dollar fifty, and I will send you a brand new peice of paper that you can write master trainer on. LOL  I prefer to call them master baiters.

I worked in a shelter for 13 years no- pay, dogs that others were afraid to handle was my job there. Then other shelters would send their dogs to us as a last resort before Euth, I was their care taker and rehab'r. I didn't name myself that .. the shelters did and I recieved a seal of approvel through the state. After my seal, I stopped working there and would be the one to house, train, correct, feed these dogs and send them back for evaluation before adopted. I foot this bill. I stopped doing this after my horse accident and have my own dogs now. But, I appreciate greatly my piece of paper.

I tend to not discuss my workplace by name because I would rather not the opinions I express regarding certain issues be misconstrued as those of the facility. Not that I say much that they would disagree with at all, but its a matter of professionalism and respect. Those that know me well know where I work and who I was trained by. I have nothing to prove to a complete stranger, take my opnion as you will.

The facility trains police K9, service dogs for the disabled, beginner through advanced obedience to the public. The facility is known in the area for the work we do with "problem dogs". While it is not a competition centered facility by any means, from time to time we do have customers that are successful in schutzhund and akc obedience/rally.

If you are inferring that someone with years of experience wouldn't teach me, Dennis, you are ignorant of the situation. They need enough staff to train the sizable number of dogs that come through and do need to hire new ones from time to time. This facility prefers to train their trainers from the ground up, and it yes, it a big time commitment and often those hired as trainers wash out. I did not.

Let us not forget Ami Moore is  "Certified Master Trainer"  ...certifiable is more like it...