How does her pedigree look? - Page 1

I have been updating Xena's Pedigree. I am no where near done but I have to call it a night ( Or morning, its 2 am lol) I have to be to work at 7 lol. From researching, she does come from a working line and has several CH in her recent line, good hips as far as I have gotten. AKC search shut me down after 25 lol so I will have to work on that tomorrow night. I still have to finish the bottom half of her pedigree and fill in a few blanks that I was just to tired to dig into further this evening. 

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/7/507784.html

Therese

Are you asking about pedigree quality?

Do you want honesty or do you want it sugar coated?

Give i to me straight GSDfan, I am begnning to develope a tough exterior. The only way I will ever learn what is quality and what isnt is by education :) I have a feeling the good lines are to far back to have much bearing on her.

Therese

I respect your will to learn, I was once where you are...everyone's gotta start somewhere, so don't take it personal.

To start what makes a quality pedigree are titles and or ratings,  competition levels (regional, national, international etc.) and notable dogs (recognizable names, dogs known as great competators (high scorer for workinglines, high show placements for showlines). At least that's what makes a pedigree good on paper.  In Germany EVERY breeding dog is REQUIRED to have a show rating (G, SG, V, VA), a breed survey (KKL1 or 2) AND working title (SchH, VPG, WPO etc.) therefore many consider Germany and those countries that follow the same standard to have higher "quality" GSD's than those who don't.  AKC showlines are pretty much not well respected, especailly on this board.  They hold no standard for working abilities, temperament  and do not require breeding dogs to be hip cert.  This many people feel has led to their deterioration...although AKC show folks will argue different.

With that said your female's pedigree is what I call very "diluted".  The GSD's before your female have been bred for generations without hip certifications and titles. what many consider "quality" GSD's are so far back in the pedigree they have little impact on your female and her genetic makeup.  While many feel it is not necessary to always adhere to the strict SV standards, If someone does breed untitled GSD's I feel they should make the best possible attempt to keep those titled GSD's as close in the pedigree as possible to preserve the working abilities of the breed.  The closest those are to your female is in the 4th generation...very poor IMO. 

The most major issue IMO is the lack of Hip ratings, especially in the front of the pedigree.  Only 18 out of the 62 dogs in your females first 5 generations have hip ratings, and again just about all of those dogs are in the back (4th and 5th gen).  Again very poor IMO.

Regards,

Melanie

Thanks for your honesty :)
I am still updating the OFA certs and show ratings, I was suprised to find several of the recent ancesters titled. I will work on those when I get home this evening, as soon as the AKC search lets me in again lol

Therese

[[Germany and those countries that follow the same standard to have higher "quality" GSD's than those who don't]]

I meant...Germany and those countries AND/OR BREEDERS that follow suit.....

The US has some very high quality GSD breeders that follow the SV standard...but here it is voluntary, since AKC has very low standards.

WHen I was adding dogs to the database, I went by Xena's Pedigree to list them. I noticed some had a W(E) or some other letter after the letter, The pedigree doesnt show country of origin so I just put AKC. I am new to all this so if someone looks at the pedigree and sees errors please let me know, thats the only way I will learn :)
Therese