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I just want comments on this pedigree, i may want to buy a pup with these lines.

www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/para.utkoma?fadir=324289&modir=512480

Hi Bun bun,

On sires side, West German workinglines and on the dams, Czech workinglines. Sounds like a nice combo, would this be a competition dog for you? I'm curious, who's the breeder? Feel free to email me, if you want to keep that private.

Krista

blueskyek9@charter.net

why does this sounds nice?  what do you expect from this combination ? ok the father is a good one and whats behind  is known

tell me whats behind the dam line....

who will have the most influense on the litter ,   or Czech x   ... then it will be good ?   its not a poker game

what do you know what the dam line does bring?   do they look like GSD ?

Hey - I know where there is a Rottie x cane corso litter too!    I call this  a lottery ticket breeding - shot in the dark.  Could be all the little genes whriling around in there come together in a nice pattern, but more likely just a random who knows what - stick to a pup from type to type

drew

Total outcross breeding, half German half czech = shot in the dark. No way to predict the results for the pups in the litter, or from the next 2-3 generations. This is my prblem with German x Eastern block breedings: no consistency in the results.

JMO

SS

Just because a line's not "pure" czech, DDR, WG, ect...doesn't mean that the litter doesn't have potential. My bitch is 50% DDR, 50% Czech, from top lines, but because she isn't one or the other, are you telling me she has no potential? It all depends on the dog, the combo of lines, how the pup's raised, and of course, lots of other things...Lines don't make the dogs, the dogs make the lines what they are.

I once had a discussion with a wise man from Germany about breeding. He explained to me that breeding GSDs was like making good beer. You start with the best ingredients. If you know what you are doing, you are the hit of BierFest, if you don't know what you are doing, you spend all your time in the facilities wishing you had known what you were doing.

Bottom line, you use the best of everything, and hope that what you know is accurate. You never use cheap hops or barley.  However, I do believe that making beer has got to be easier than producing good dogs.

I have a dog with similar lines. There are some dogs on the mom's side in common with my own. The sire's side definately looks good on paper to me- very close overall to my own.

I'm not highly experienced, but I can tell you what I got out  of (what I would deem) a similar breeding. My pup is high drive. He needs A LOT of activity, attention, and exercise. I am working him in Sch, but I think he might be a better personal protection dog. No one at my club has said that, but I have a hunch.  So far he is doing well in tracking and light-weight protection play, drive building etc. Obedience: he does great when he wants to. He is young and all I have done is positive based obedience training so far. I can tell that he is going to be a hard dog though. He is tough and is hard to get through to at times. When in drive, he really shines.  I have a feeling that I am going to have to lean on him hard to get him to listen up at some point.  He lives to go and train though. He LOVES it.  I think with the right motivation, he will do wonderfully.    I will say that he is awesome with my two small boys, though sometimes his exhuberance in play is a little much for them. We watch them closely all the time. I work from home most of the time, so this is a plus with this type of dog.  He is a young pup- 7 months old, but he is very protective of the house and his territory. Very intelligent- fast learner- but one who pushes the boundaries. If he thinks something is out of place, he is the type to go see what it is- face the enemy etc...

Just one person's experience here.