If you SHOW you better take a look..... - Page 1

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As you all know judges do not wash there hands in between examining dogs ,nor do they wear gloves . This would take extra time to do ,a solution to this problem would be to make it mandatory to  have the exhibitor show the dogs bite to the judge.  This poor beagle here ,had to suffer with these pappilomas  as well as being isolated from other dogs for a long period of time, as to not spread the virus to them .

Now before anyone gets froggy and decides to wig out on me for this,  It was emailed to me and NO I will not tell you from who,  But they asked that I post it so I did,  so don't think I am lying about it or making it up or otherwise,  just take it for what it's worth, if it is worth nothing to then no harm done.

Echo -

I think it's good info, and I certainly prefer to show my own dog's bite rather than have a stranger reaching for their mouth.

At AKC shows many judges ask the handler to show the bite.

I have had all the judges ask me to show my dogs teeth (I am gald I did) It makes it easier on the dogs as the judge is a stranger and should not be opening the mouth. MPO

I am quite positive it is an answer to many of our prayers that the showlines die off. : )

Something I've used with all my pets safetly for over a decade and is widely accepted to "kill off" viruses in people with viruses such as Epstein Barr and many others is Collodial Silver, a naturally occuring mineral that kills over 650 virus, bacteria and fungus by encapsulating them and "suffocating" them thereby giving a natural die off instead of a mutated cell.  I give a small amount to my animals if they chance to come in contact with another animal with any noticeable health issues as a preventative.  Also, I take some for a few days if I come in contact with someone with the flu.

This was recommended initially to me by a panel of doctors (MD's & DO's) at a natural medicine seminar of over 800 professionals.  I can only speak from experience that it is the only "viral defense" I have found that actually works.  Do an internet search to see not only its benefits but the fact that the anti-viral, anti-bacterial and anti-fungal properties of silver have been known for centuries.  Ever hear of the silver dollar in the milk to keep it from spoiling? (pre-refridgeration)

If you all can't tell by now, I have studied and applied natural medicine (out of sheer necessity) for almost 20 years now.  I know there is a split between those who believe in conventional vs holistic medicine and I am of the belief that both are necessary practices to be truly holistic.  I also know that many medications are synthetic copies of naturally occuring substances.  The body is designed in a way that it efficiently metabolizes whole food/plant substances yet cannot fully metabolize a synthetic  substance.  In my opinion, this leads to a variety of dysfunction, usually starting in the digestive tract.  It has also been stated in the New England Journal of Medicine that "over 80% of todays diseases are atrophic in nature, caused by the treatments of other health problems."

I would love to hear from you all on the subject of holistic treatments for our pets and I am posting this info only as an aide to any who are interested in this line of health care for their pets.  I personally use both conventional and holistic for my pets and found that there is a balance to be had blessing me with great longevity and healthy pets, most passing beyond "normal" age and from naturally occuring organ failure.

We will definatly be dosing our dogs prior to any show and I will remember to show their teeth myself.  Excellent point EchoMeadows thank you for passing it along.  I can tell the pro's know about this, but as a "newbie" I appreciate the info very much.  Sorry this was so long, I will endeavor to keep them shorter from now on.

Echo -

I think it's good info, and I certainly prefer to show my own dog's bite rather than have a stranger reaching for their mouth.

Jeff, working lines share all those drippin, goopey, sometimes bloody sleeves. Don't write the show lines off quite so quickly yet ;o). Can you see a new sleeve cover needed for every dog? Or everyone bringing their own? Or better yet, disposable sleeve covers. 
This is the over-reaction of an inexperienced newbie. That dog could have just as well been exposed via casual contact with other dogs at the show, or via other people handling and socializing with numerous dogs there. May not have happened at the show at all considering the long incubation period. Who is to say this did not happen at the local dog park. To try to impose stringent hygene rules for shows etc is overkill IMO. If you go to a dog event where lots of dogs meet some may always be harboring something. Owners do not intentionally go to shows to spread infection, unfortunately some do not consider possible consequences of what may seem harmless at the time. Take the vet for example - I am always amazed how many pet owners feel it is ok for their dogs to be nose to nose with some strangers dog without knowing why that other dog is there, or allowing their dog to get in direct contact with other peoples dogs even though their dog is being treated for something contagious. A little common sense should take care of both scenarios. Can't keep your dogs in a bubble after all. If you take your dogs out regularly they are continuously exposed to all sort of things and build up a certain immunity to it. 
You should always show teeth yourself anyways, that is the business end to keep in control of at all times. 
Clews, definite yes to holistic approaches when and where appropriate. Collodial Silver works. From personal experience (abcessed tooth, antibiotics prescription waiting for me just in case, not needed, CS did the job just fine) and also from using it with the dogs. That Beagle must have had other issues. Papilloma Virus usually affects dogs with weaker immune systems. The warts interfering with eating and breathing could have been removed, so no need for panic. Lo and behold your dog may need a little veterinary attention. Back to the "its gotta be perfect and maintenance free for life" wish. Supportive therapy to give that dogs immune system a good boost should have resolved this within a couple of weeks anyways. 
Comparing the need for gloves at a show to a doctors visit is a bit far fetched. Like saying everyone who socially kisses someone hello should be using a dental dam... ick.