Puppy lankiness question - Page 1

Iluvmidog (I think it was) had pics of boss von hogg for evaluation. I have question about the back legs. My pup is a little over five mos. now and he sits in this sideways flop position too. I actually got so concerned about it I asked my vet to do xrays on his hips. Not ofa or anything just a visual check and opinion. He really didn't want to until much later but agreed (probably because I've paid for his NEW FREAKING CAR!!).  Oops, did I let that slip out?

Anyway he showed me on the xrays how his hips were really good and seated correctly. Of course he could have told me they needed a quart of oil and how the hell would I know any different?? But, he said it was that he is very loose in his hind end. Along those lines anyway. He is a very lanky boy (dog-not vet) and has really gotten tall in the last month.

So my question is: have you seen this kind of sloppy sitting much? (no offense to boss-I think it's really cute except I'm worried about it). Anectodatally (is that a word?) speaking have you seen a correlation with this loose movement and physicall problems when grown?

Yeah, I know. I don't have enough to worry about.

They all go through that lanky kind of ugly stage like kids do. Mine slouch to one side when they sit 2 confirmed bad hips one the vet is concerned about., Just have no money for the x-rays he had one testicle so he was neutered anyway, Glucosamine with MSM and Omega 3 fish oil as a preventative. According to my vet unless the hips are reallly bad you can make them look good on an x-ray by repositioning ever so slightly. My vet doesn't play with hip dysplasia as her dog suffered through it. Just watch him and keep his weight down and pray. I heard the laxity is a precursor to HD in the future, Im no expert by any means but I am learning as fast and as much as I can. This board is amazing

No iLuvmidog doesn't have a dog by that name...But I do know about the sloppy sit..

Now we are going to correct it...Adrian Ledda style......

Sit the pup in front of you with a tiny treat over his head,  make sure he is very hungry....do not feed all one day for this training....

IF pup sits sloppy in a few minutes, you step back call pup to you and sit again,,,,make sure he come right up to you...train your pup to sit as close to you as he can get , making eye contact....if he sits straight reward with the treat...if he sits sloppy to one side , step back again , and clap hand, put treat in your mouth so you can clap,,,,,make dog look up at your face....if pup sits straight reward immediately. run off and get to follow you....

Every time you ask your pup to sit , wait a few , if he goes to the sloppy sit,, make him come to you , and start saying sit straight.....sit straight....sit and reward if straigth...if crooked make get up immed step backwards ,,,,,sitz again and until he sits straight do not reward....

practice this routine daily...Do not let pup get in habit of the lazy sit......YR  Learned this and for years no one in any club every told her that  the lazy sit was a correctable fault...

A female that had a lazy sit, was laughed at by the now head of a schutzhund club in Texas, and told she would never pass her ofa...Well , the laugh was on her, as this pup passed with an OFA   EXCElLLENT     but never corrected the sloppy sit,,,,until Adrian Ledda informed this person how to do it....

Vets are not trainers and they do not know to tell you this...At least you got an exray... The lady with the ofa excel held her breath till 24mos old and saw the xrays and got her OFA Certification and went running to club training waiving it in the air....

I dont know who had the Boss von Hogg     I know who Ima Hogg and Yura Hogg are , though..

I agree with the sloppy sit is just that,  a sloppy sit.   NO connection or proof of connection to HD.

Loose in the back end,  I think just has to do with "teenage" growth and awkwardness.

Lankiness same thing,  Just teenage growth and awkwardness.

allaboutthedogs,  gather that pup up,  give him a good snuggle and rest easy my friend,  They all go through that awkward, lanky, lazy, clumsy, goofy looking, stage.  We did too but it was so long ago we forgot  ! !    CRS or SM maybe ???   LOL   :-)

LOL....dawgs----BOSS is my pup....I asked the same question on here, and i got ummm...whats the word....i guess basicly called stupid for asking that....

someone had told me that sitting like that could be a sign of bad hips or cause arthritus....how was i suppose to know if that was true or not?...so i asked on here.....

but i was also told on here that most of them grow out of it, and thankfully, for the most part, boss has...he sits on his butt- straight up now...

WHAT???? Someone got called stupid on THIS website? Inconceivable!!

I was worried about it and asked my vet to do xray. I had to talk him into it but he did it. No OFA but he used to breed European working line shepherds so I felt confident with it. He said the hips were really good. Nicely seated and aligned. Now I can rest easier but there is always that next thing to worry and obsess about. 

allaboutthedawgs,
Agree, side sitting means nothing more then that, nothing to do with hips.
When you spend the money ( $$$ ) to have a vet x-ray him it makes no sense to me not to send them off to OFA. If they knocked him out or even sedated him plus the X-Ray, it is a fair chunk of change. Then you have a vet that may or may not be good at reading hip X-Rays and evaluating them for your hard earned money. Even if your vet is great, he probably still will not hold a candle to OFA evaluations with 3 Dr. opinion that do nothing but evaluate hips.  The clincher is that for a pre-lim E-Ray sent to OFA for evaluations is only $ 25.00 !   You get a lot of bang for $ 25.00. I mention this for future information. Many people do what you did, and for me why not send them off to OFA, then you also have something to compare to for the future. Also, for an additional $ 5.00 OFA will send you the X-Rays back to you along with their evaluation. Most vets will not give you the X-Rays outright. P.S. OFA also takes into consideration poor positioning that your vet may have done and whether or not the dog was sedated.  Just a tip.