German Shepherds in KNPV trials - Page 1

If you enjoy some hard hitting video you will enjoy this. These are German Shepherds that are in KNPV trials in Holland. You can go to the web-site and see other german shepherds doinf KNOV. Enjoy! http://www.k9gardefense.com/gideon.html

Juno

Nice pike son.  The dog has nice fight drive.  I don't want to start the next Sch vs Ring fight, I just have some observations.  Two of those clips were escape bites, which are not very challenging to a dog.  I also don't think it is very challenging to a dog to have him guard from behind.  There is very little pressure on a dog.  I always hated seeing the bike exercise.  It reminds me of my childhood.  Everyday a West Highland White Terrier would chase us down the road on our bikes.  I don't think this is a good exercise to teach a Sport/Family dog.  Can you imagine little Bobby trying out his new Huffy and old Rex sees him as the decoy?  Bobby better have some speed!  I also want to express that some decoys are sloppy in the footwork and will go to the ground at the drop of a hat.  Other times it is a must to go to the ground to avoid injury to the dog and yourself. 

Don,

KNPV was started and, for the most part, is seen primarily as a develpoment and certification program for police service dogs. It has evolved as a sport, but is still seen as a police dog certification program. I have heard from people who have been to Holland, most will take offense at the term "sport" or "personal protection" dog. Don't know about the GSD people, but the Mal or DS people in KNPV breed dogs geared for police service only.

In Holland the bycicle is a very prominant mode of transportation. Hence the bike excercise. It is smart to train this excercise. When you send a dog to bite a guy on a bike, even the hardest dogs are generally thrown off by the picture if they have not seen it before. They also have a vast canal system in Holland. They have a retrieve from the water excercise to show a dog will go into the water as well.

Forgot, they also have a search in the woods and an article search for a bullet casing as well. Very police service orientated.

GARD

If you read my post again, it was a joke and I stated a sport/family dog. 

This was posted mostly for fun viewing, not really trying to start anything. Since I am a GSD lover just wanted to fnd out if they are involved in other dog sports other than schutzhund. Also, I agree with you that in this video there is not much pressure on the dog, however; there are a lot more elements to KNPV than what is shown here. Also I believe some of the original elements of schutzhund i.e. food refusal, and guarding the object, are still part of KNPV. I was also interested to see if there are any breeders that breed GSDs for French Ring, and I found one. Here is the link. 

http://bergerallemandhurlevent.com/indexgb.htm

Juno

I understand and I enjoyed the video immensely!  Even with a preface, I shouldn't have posted what I wrote.  I knew it would start flinging.

I was only making observations and pointing out small details.  I did the same on the SchH video thread.  I am not knocking either, I love em all!

Don no worries. I didn't take offense.

Your hmor and sarcasim are usually pretty evident. It was a little cloudy to me on this one. Just wanted to make some things clear to others that may have missed it as well

AOL won't f'ing play it for me.  

QUOTE:   I also don't think it is very challenging to a dog to have him guard from behind.  There is very little pressure on a dog.

The KNPV sells around half it's dogs to police and military. I think it is a bit more realistic to have the dog guard from behind where he is less likely to get snatched up and killed.

I am curious to your thinking here. I swear I will not argue a point, but am just curious why there would need to be pressure in the guard??