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by Gustav on 15 August 2009 - 12:08
Hypothetically, If you had an adult female conformation line dog that showed no interest in herding which requires an adequate of amount of prey drive and nerve to do successfully; when you bred her what would be your highest priority in selecting a stud?
by Mystere on 15 August 2009 - 16:08
First, I would not breed her at all. What would be the purpose, if she lacked even the prey drive and nerve to herd? That is a dog destined to die in the wild.
But, if I "had" assuming that she also has a stable, balanced temperament (NO sharpness or nerviness), I would breed to a strong, extreme male, with Timmy/Troll linebreeding and heavy Korbelbach/tal behind him. . Then, I'd have to pray.
by bea teifke on 15 August 2009 - 16:08
breed to a very hard , strong nerve stud
by bea teifke on 15 August 2009 - 16:08
breed to a very hard , strong nerve stud
by crhuerta on 15 August 2009 - 17:08
Hopefully I am understanding your question correctly......?
.....and if that was going to be what I wanted to pursue.....I would only breed from dogs that "would" have that natural instinct.
BUT if the person was going to breed this female anyway, ...My advice would be to contact the breeder of some of the finest "herding" dogs........Kirschental.
Since some of his dogs are also of "conformation lines"....I would ask his opinion of this question.?
I think the breed should have the basic drives and nerves to be "able" to herd. .....I would rely on the opinions of those that have "mastered" the sport.
JMO
.....and if that was going to be what I wanted to pursue.....I would only breed from dogs that "would" have that natural instinct.
BUT if the person was going to breed this female anyway, ...My advice would be to contact the breeder of some of the finest "herding" dogs........Kirschental.
Since some of his dogs are also of "conformation lines"....I would ask his opinion of this question.?
I think the breed should have the basic drives and nerves to be "able" to herd. .....I would rely on the opinions of those that have "mastered" the sport.
JMO
by Gustav on 15 August 2009 - 18:08
Robin, I like your answer though I don't necessarily mean for a herding dog. To me a dog that doesn't reflect the drives to do what the breed is created out of is lacking a major component. I mean how often do you see a border collie that doesn't show herding instinct or a labrador that doesn't show retrieving instinct. To me this is major!!! So I am asking if you owned a dog like this how would you approach coming up with a stud that would bring this back to balance. robin, I do think that the right Kirschental dogs would add important qualities and still give you excellent conformation.
by RLHAR on 15 August 2009 - 19:08
Hypothetically speaking, I'd have to ask myself what is it that the bitch *is* bringing to the table that makes her worth breeding.
There are a lot of top conformation females out there, with drive, being bred so what is in this particular female that makes her 'better' or 'unique' compared to the others?
If there is a trait (and I'm not saying there isn't) then I'd probably start with that trait and breed to strengthen it and also bring in more nerve and drive from the male.
There are a lot of top conformation females out there, with drive, being bred so what is in this particular female that makes her 'better' or 'unique' compared to the others?
If there is a trait (and I'm not saying there isn't) then I'd probably start with that trait and breed to strengthen it and also bring in more nerve and drive from the male.
by GSDPACK on 15 August 2009 - 19:08
I would find new female that has is so I do not have to pray that the pups will ALL take after the father.
My opinion, If female can not prove herself why to do breeding with her.
It is probably an answer you do not want to hear but that is how I think..sorry
My opinion, If female can not prove herself why to do breeding with her.
It is probably an answer you do not want to hear but that is how I think..sorry
by kamgsd on 16 August 2009 - 01:08
I agree with gsdpack. most of us breed to better the breed. if a gsd does not have nerve, what makes her a good gsd to breed? i would not do it. good luck kathy
by darylehret on 16 August 2009 - 01:08
"necessarily mean for a herding dog"
Then for what purpose? I wouldn't have guessed conformation alone, not from you Gustav. How about a good nose for tracking, "genetic obedience"/ or biddable temperament, speed and agility? Surely "good conformation" supports superiority in agility (or, it should)?
Then for what purpose? I wouldn't have guessed conformation alone, not from you Gustav. How about a good nose for tracking, "genetic obedience"/ or biddable temperament, speed and agility? Surely "good conformation" supports superiority in agility (or, it should)?
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