Female Bloodline - Page 1

Would like to know what would be an ideal pedigree/bloodline of a female for my male? I would like a female partner for my male dog.

Any inputs would be helpful

And your male would be.... who?

here is the pedigree

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/508062.html

vikram,

Well it all kinda depends on what attributes you want to breed for.  Your dog has a great pediree that is very sought after, but being that the line breeding is

• 4 - 5,5,4......................................... in V Fero vom Zeuterner Himmelreich
• 5 - 4............................................. in SG Timmy von der bösen Nachbarschaft
• 5 - 4............................................. in V Arek vom Stoffelblick
• 5 - 4............................................. in V Orlie vom Körbelbach
• 4 - 3............................................. in SG Half vom Ruhbachtal
• 3 - 2............................................. in V Nick vom Heiligenbösch
• 5 - 4............................................. in Fricka vom Bärenfang
• 5 - 5............................................. in SG Perle vom Rosenbusch
• 5 - 5............................................. in V Flori vom Berglein
• 3 - 4............................................. in V Troll von der bösen Nachbarschaft
• 4 - 5,5........................................... in V Askia vom Froschgraben
• 4 - 3............................................. in G Ina vom Haus Gard

I would look to breed a total outcross.  But that would just be my method.

could you give me some future breedings i'm looking for a female pup 6 months down. I will miss the first heat and then mate him.

What would be some of the latest breedings ?? Some latest Sires and top producers?

I just want to make sure I have this right.

You have an 8 WEEK old puppy and you want to know who to breed him to.

Oh but you will wait about 6 -12 months and then breed him to a bitch that is 12-18 mo old?

Before one even STARTS to look for a breeding partner you need to know what you have and IF  - IF that animal is of breeding quality. For most people that process includes growing out the dog, training and working him/her, getting the necessary health clearances and  show/working ratings - i.e. putting his AD, BH and Schutzhund titles,  and depending on the dog possibly a show rating and koer class.

For most people that would take several years during which time they get to know the strengths and weaknesses of their dog ( because none are perfect), educate themselves and probably with the help of others make a decision regrading the dog's breed worthiness and should he be bred.

That would be the time for advice to be asked and given. Douglife did you happen to look at the age of this dog ?

I'm truly trying very hard not to be too sarcastic or rude and to provide useful information. I have to say my first response was to simply print in large letters - what are you thinking- is this a joke? In a more conciliatory tone I would seriously like to understand the thought process behind your question. Are you in the U.S. or another country? Is it common where you are from not be concerned with what at least some see as the basic inquiries into breed worthiness? Now as my friends will be happy to tell you - I'm a pedigree nut. I love studying pedigrees and  watching what works and doesn't. But the first rule in dog breeding is to lift up your eyes and look at the dog. Even I who gets carried away studying the "brews" that great breeders put together and dreaming about the breedings I would do if I had the time, space and an inexhaustable supply of great homes knows that neither words nor  pictures nor titles make the dog.

It looks like you've been lucky enough to get a pup that has a great blueprint. Take your time and develop him right and see what kind of house gets built from that blueprint. Use that time to study and learn about our great breed. Learn why his pedigree is attractive to some and not so to others. Learn what you like in GSDs and what you don't. Learn what you want to select for and then double check the standard to make sure you're on the right page ( for ex. a Golden retriever mind in a GSD body does not a GSD make). Learn what the problems are in the breed and what lines carry what problems. Watch, listen,learn, watch,listen, learn and never stop doing those three things even when you do finally become a "breeder".

Good luck with your pup. Keep us updated of his accomplishments.

Thank VKFgsd   I may have some questions for you     but not at this time: got to get prepared for them   need to get my rain boots on and here in Texas , its sink or swim  so when I get back  , please dont run off and stay with us.....You are a breath of fresh german shepherd Air>>>>>

Hi there,

Douglife & VKFGSD, thank you very much for your comments. I can completly agree with your comments. Thought, I am not into workinglines, but with this kind of question it does not really matter what one breeds, it leaves a bad tatse in my mouth.

Vikram,

With the pedigree your male has, it will be a lot of work to figure out what lines one should go into, especially since there is also a 3-2 in it. But, to say it out blunt, you have it backwards...... you should first try to get your little male to grow up, and of course your future female as well. My understanding is that you wish to breed that future female at her 2nd heat at around 15 -17 month, please dont do it. Do it right and first get your animals titelt and assure that they are indeed breedworthy.

As I find it ok, to make plans for the longrun, it seems to me that you have a lot of learning ahaed of you. So, take the advice given and take one step after the other. Oh, one more thing, as it is ok to seek advice, there is a lot of research involved to review pedigrees and to find a good combination. This task is VERY time consuming, you should start doing it yourself, instead of asking someone to do it for you ! And that will have a nice sideeffect ......... you will learn alot about your males lines !

Regards

Ulli Dresbach

It is great fun to do paper breedings with a new puppy, isn't it?  So many hopes and dreams, or as somebody on one of these boards said once, 300 points lying there and a lifetime to earn them all.

There used to be a strong "Harro to Fero" breeding scheme that was popular in Germany.  You might look at females that come down from Harro because you are absolutely saturated with Fero.   My male, (similar bloodlines) was used with a WGerman Bullinger female with the result of some great puppies.  The first one will be trialing in Spring, most of the others are in pet homes and doing well in companion obedience type things.

Chances are that your little guy will not be a conformation knockout, working dogs rarely are, so a female with nice structure will be important.  It would be easy to breed this little guy with similar "hardassed" females, but until you have homes for multiple little drive monsters those kinds of breedings are hard to move, so you should plan on getting puppies back, or not selling them at all.

I am looking at crossing a Troll Milinda/ Ufo female with a Fero grandson, some stunning working dogs in Belgium, with more handler interaction and the bonus of really nice structure on some of them.  Sometimes my male lets me know that he could do his job so much better without me tagging along, it can be hard to get a working dog's attention.  But since he hasn't read the rule book, my task has been to teach him that ours is a team sport.  I wish you better luck, starting with a puppy.  I am hoping that the intense handler focus that my female has will pass to the puppies, that and the male is similarly motivated. 

Zorro Laager Wall has crossed well with Fero blood for a very good friend of mine.

As you train and compete with your little guy you will learn what makes him tick, and you will also learn his shortcomings, your choice of a female for him should address those, whatever her lines.

Good luck, and be sure that you take the time to enjoy your puppy, this time is so short!

Lorri